Re:Europe drastically cut its energy consumption this winter
by FpUser on Friday April 07, 2023 @02:14PM
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Can you please name me a country that did not conquer / occupy anything and hence according to your rules has the right to exist?
Re:Europe drastically cut its energy consumption this winter
by hydrok9 on Friday April 07, 2023 @02:19PM
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That wasn't the question. Where did i say Russia has no right to exist? Nowhere. I said Chechnya is not "Russia". None of the Caucasus were Russian before they were conquered by Russia. They then declared independence and were reconquered. That is why there was an insurgency in Chechnya, and why there was a military campaign against it by the Russian state, and why they installed a strongman afterwards who has been loyal to Putin since.
It's also why they campaigned in Georgia, and in Ukraine, and why all the ex-USSR states are convinced that they are targets.
Re:Europe drastically cut its energy consumption this winter
by FpUser on Friday April 07, 2023 @03:31PM
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>"That wasn't the question. Where did i say Russia has no right to exist? Nowhere. I said Chechnya is not "Russia""
Your logic seems to be completely twisted. Good luck. I've lost interest to this conversation.
Re:Europe drastically cut its energy consumption this winter
by hydrok9 on Friday April 07, 2023 @03:39PM
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No it is not. Russia would exist without Chechnya just fine. You've lost interest in the conversation because you are emotional and don't want to be wrong.
Re:Europe drastically cut its energy consumption this winter
by int_19h on Friday April 07, 2023 @07:50PM
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The irony is that Russia itself had a decently sized nationalist movement with "stop feeding Caucasus!" as a slogan. That is, they wanted Caucasian republics to separate so that Russia wouldn't have to "waste money" on them, and to avoid free movement of people from there into territories that are predominantly ethnically Russian.
No, that doesn't matter. It's still an occupation. Many people in the Caucasus gave and do give a "flying fuck."