U.S. and China wage war beneath the waves – over internet cables

Re:U.S. and China wage war beneath the waves – over internet... by milesskorpen on Friday April 07, 2023 @12:15PM (#35483300)

China sure acts in an imperialist manner in Tibet, parts of Kashmir, Xinjiang, perhaps Inner Mongolia and the SCS + has obvious designs on Taiwan. I think you could characterize their activities in Sri Lanka has imperialist overtones too.

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Re:U.S. and China wage war beneath the waves – over internet... by pphysch on Friday April 07, 2023 @12:18PM (#35483354)

Sinophobes spin every action of Beijing as "imperialistic" or "genocidal" or whatever the next buzzword is.

That doesn't make it true, it just drains those words of useful meaning.

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Re:U.S. and China wage war beneath the waves – over internet... by TulliusCicero on Friday April 07, 2023 @01:36PM (#35484396)

Genocide denial isn't a great look, chief.

China is guilty of Uyghur genocide. They just depend on people engaging in wishful thinking or spaghetti logic to explain how reeducation camps and mass sterilization of a populace doesn't count.

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Re:U.S. and China wage war beneath the waves – over internet... by TulliusCicero on Friday April 07, 2023 @03:08PM (#35485703)

> Lowering birthrates

This is a nice way of covering up enforced sterilization and contraception, which is absolutely genocide. Like, it's literally getting rid of a people, by making them physically incapable of reproducing: https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-we...

> The state regularly subjects minority women to pregnancy checks, and forces intrauterine devices, sterilization and even abortion on hundreds of thousands, the interviews and data show. Even while the use of IUDs and sterilization has fallen nationwide, it is rising sharply in Xinjiang.

If it was just a matter of making IUD's or other contraceptives available, obviously that would be fine. But what's happening is forcing them across the Uyghurs, and that's genocide.

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Re:U.S. and China wage war beneath the waves – over internet... by eramoose on Friday April 07, 2023 @01:44PM (#35484523)

It's interesting that your argument for China's imperialism includes China governing three of their own provinces ("America sure acts in an imperialist manner in Alaska, Hawaii...") and the debunked Sri Lankan debt-trap story.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/02/ch...

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Re:U.S. and China wage war beneath the waves – over internet... by milesskorpen on Friday April 07, 2023 @02:35PM (#35485185)

The parent comment I'm responding to explicitly makes this point: "The United States operates an imperial arrangement within its continental territory"

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