Re:Court Ruling Could Affect the Future Direction of DAOs
by Teever on Thursday April 06, 2023 @03:28PM
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What if we can't tell who the last person was? Do we just go down the line until we find someone to blame? What if that person didn't add any of the menacing features of the code?
What if the last 'person' was gpt4? is openai responsible?
Re:Court Ruling Could Affect the Future Direction of DAOs
by ARandumGuy on Thursday April 06, 2023 @03:46PM
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The person responsible will be whoever the courts think is responsible. Courts use case law and judicial precedent to determine responsibility for a wide variety of complicated legal situations.
Things do get murky when there isn't a lot of existing precedent. That's why it's risky to engage in activities that are, let's just say "legally innovative."
Re:Court Ruling Could Affect the Future Direction of DAOs
by wildzzz on Thursday April 06, 2023 @03:48PM
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If they can't find the person solely responsible for something, then they got away.
If you make an AI that is hooked up to the internet and it does something criminal, you'd be liable. You can't just let your pitbull roam the streets and not be held liable when it bites someone.
Re:Court Ruling Could Affect the Future Direction of DAOs
by Teever on Thursday April 06, 2023 @04:05PM
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What if I release the AI onto the internet, and then tragically die in a car accident? Who is responsible for the AI? What happens when the AI spawns more AI, who is responsible for that?
Re:Court Ruling Could Affect the Future Direction of DAOs
by notch898a on Thursday April 06, 2023 @04:17PM
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Yeah this reminds me of a thought experiment with Ethereum virtual machines. If someone writes and produces the code for tornado cash, publishes it on the internet as free speech but never deploys it obviously they are not at fault. So lets say they publish it and some anonymous person from Somalia publishes it to the Ethereum network and the nodes absorb the program.
When then is responsible for the tornado cash instance? The Ethereum VM node operators who have no idea they're even running it? An unknowable person from Somalia?
Re:Court Ruling Could Affect the Future Direction of DAOs
by EdwardDiego on Thursday April 06, 2023 @04:42PM
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Most likely the node operators would be held to be liable if they're hosting illegal content and take no steps to prevent it.
Re:Court Ruling Could Affect the Future Direction of DAOs
by notch898a on Thursday April 06, 2023 @04:46PM
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Right now the node operators worldwide even to this day are running tornado cash on their EVM, including validating transactions to sanctioned contract addresses.
Re:Court Ruling Could Affect the Future Direction of DAOs
by yokem55 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @07:28PM
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And keep in mind, the US Treasury has said that it would issue licenses to Americans who need to be able to withdraw their legitimate funds from Tornado cash. Some validator needs to be able to process those transactions, and would have no idea whether any particular TC withdrawal is licensed or not.
You can't just wind up a toy with a bomb strapped to it, walk away, and disclaim the consequences; nor can you do that with code.