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Re:H. G. Wells interviewing J. V. Stalin (1934) by scp_not_gpt on Thursday April 06, 2023 @10:57AM (#35469197)
Not really. The nature of Holodomor is only disputed by the historians who care to push a specific agenda - be it politically or ideologically motivated. USSR is also did a fine job to whitewash any of its past crimes.

> "that region had regular famines and dry seasons in the past, before USSR too, and it only stopped after 40s, when various actions were taken to improve agricultural stability there" - care to elaborate on this?

Re:H. G. Wells interviewing J. V. Stalin (1934) by lisasays on Thursday April 06, 2023 @11:37AM (#35469857)
The nature of Holodomor is only disputed by the historians who care to push a specific agenda.

You can believe that if you want. Without factual references to back up what you're saying, though - it's just a a flat, sweeping assertion.

Re:H. G. Wells interviewing J. V. Stalin (1934) by RedCondor on Thursday April 06, 2023 @11:00AM (#35469238)
It's quite the opposite—"the Holodomor" is pushed by people with an agenda, whereas many liberals and antagonists of the USSR concede that the narrative is BS.

See all the evidence here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35468886

Or even an arch-Cold Warrior like Robert Conquest, who literally wrote a book about it:

>In response to criticism from R. W. Davies and Stephen G. Wheatcroft following the opening of Soviet archives Conquest responded in a 2003 letter that he did not believe "Stalin purposely inflicted the 1933 famine. No. What I argue is that with resulting famine imminent, he could have prevented it, but put “Soviet interest” other than feeding the starving first – thus consciously abetting it."

Re:H. G. Wells interviewing J. V. Stalin (1934) by scp_not_gpt on Thursday April 06, 2023 @11:19AM (#35469521)
This not "evidence"; this is your (failed) attempts to build an F-tier argument by "spraying and praying" a bunch of rambling, unrelated sources. Anyway, I'm done wasting my braincells. Good luck in rebuilding communisms for the umpteenth time (all previous attempts somehow result in deaths of millions and a totalitarian cult of personality springing up). You do you, comrade, I'm sure on n+1th time it will be different
Re:H. G. Wells interviewing J. V. Stalin (1934) by RedCondor on Thursday April 06, 2023 @11:19AM (#35469540)
Whoever chooses to agree with you knows they are taking the weaker position for supercilious reasons.

It really doesn't bother me.

Re:H. G. Wells interviewing J. V. Stalin (1934) by hydrok9 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @01:34PM (#35471674)
0 conclusive evidence in that thread.
Re:H. G. Wells interviewing J. V. Stalin (1934) by hydrok9 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @12:24PM (#35470677)
It's pretty clear that Stalin used the famine to help liquidize non-Russian groups who had strong identites and had resisted collectivization. Ukrainians were #1 on this list. It's a textbook play.
Re:H. G. Wells interviewing J. V. Stalin (1934) by medo-bear on Thursday April 06, 2023 @04:42PM (#35474115)
> Stalin used the famine to help liquidize non-Russian groups

Stalin was an ethnic Georgian. Why would he do that?

Re:H. G. Wells interviewing J. V. Stalin (1934) by hydrok9 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @07:03PM (#35475719)
Political stability and in order to gain their assets without compensation.
Re:H. G. Wells interviewing J. V. Stalin (1934) by bilqis on Friday April 07, 2023 @08:00AM (#35480689)
I think the source you’re linking is very biased, as well as your claims are very wild and require thorough proofs.
Re:H. G. Wells interviewing J. V. Stalin (1934) by hydrok9 on Friday April 07, 2023 @12:42PM (#35483732)
Have you read it? It's very comprehensive. I would highly recommend you do so if you are at all interested in the subject.

What "non-biased" sources would you recommend?

It's also not very wild, from a historical point of view, for an authoritarian leader to destroy or decimate ethnic groups or communities. In fact, it's extremely common, as it is an effective way of consolidating power.