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Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by nemo44x on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:31PM (#35456766)
European cities have "no-go zones" which the police won't even go into meaning they are effectively sovereign to a 3rd party. European cities have plenty of problems and plenty of areas you wouldn't go.

What you don't have is nut-job city officials that refuse to acknowledge there is crime and actively promote it.

It's not Europe but a similar murder just happened in Vancouver. Guy was stabbed to death outside a Starbucks while his wife and kids were inside buying coffee.

This is in many ways a West Coast thing. Really crazy people have somehow been elected into positions of power out there.

Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by tcptomato on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @02:31PM (#35458527)
Where exactly are these mythical European "no-go zones"?
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by callalex on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @02:40PM (#35458648)
On Fox News.
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by codyb on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @04:12PM (#35459761)
Hmm, I'm pretty liberal but there's definitely some pretty large "slum" or "ghetto" areas outside certain major cities in Europe. Generally they're predominately unassimilated refugees as far as I can tell. There doesn't seem to be much attempt at integration really. I am unsure about whether the police will go to them or whether or not they are more or less violent than American cities.

There are certain things the US does well, I think assimilation of immigrants is a really strong point for our culture here. Maybe it's because our culture has never really been much more than a gigantic mixing pot and is a lot younger. And maybe it's cause the population is so much larger and discordant than any single European nation.

Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by TMWNN on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @10:44PM (#35463469)
"No-go zones" are areas where the police are reluctant to enter because of the danger. "Wait!" you say. "Didn't the news tell me that 'no-go zones' are a myth?" Ask Reuters <https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-security-police/fr...> about those supposedly nonexistent no-go zones. Or The Independent <http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-terror-...>:

>Brice De Ruyver, who spent eight years as security adviser to then-Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt, said Molenbeek suffers from a cocktail of problems. “Youths are poorly educated, attracted by petty crime, have run-ins with police, and then there is a vicious circle, which leads to recruitment by radical groups,” he said, adding that the problems are now so serious, that it is hard to find police willing to bother tackling them.

>“We don’t officially have no-go zones in Brussels, but in reality, there are, and they are in Molenbeek.”

The Los Angeles Times disagreed with the harsh description <http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-paris-attack-molen...> of Molenbeek, but the funny thing is it did so only by favorably compararing it with the French banlieus! That well-known right-wing rag The New Republic agreed <https://newrepublic.com/article/120714/charlie-hebdo-attack-...> regarding the banlieus,, as did The New Yorker <http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-other-franc...>. (I highly recommend the last, by the way.)

The US has the likes of Detroit, Chicago ("Chiraq"), etc., and we're discussing San Francisco now. In none of those places, however—not during the worst of the "Fort Apache" years in the South Bronx in the 1970s, or South Central during the crack epidemic in the 1980s—did the police refuse to enter them, and thankfully they are all better than they used to be. That doesn't mean that these European neighborhoods are worse than the South Bronx c. 1975, but it does mean that the police in those places have overtly or implicitly made a decision regarding them and their own safety.

Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by mmmmmbop on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @03:20PM (#35459131)
Could you please point out to me the no-go zone(s) in Munich? I lived there for almost a decade and never found one of those.

Or just any area within Munich where it would be unsafe to walk at night, thanks!

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Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by dang on Friday April 07, 2023 @04:01PM (#35486328)
Can you please stop posting flamewar comments and breaking the site guidelines? We've had to ask you this more than once before. In fact you're well past the point at which we should probably ban you—see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35090086 —but I appreciate that you posted good comments about Gravity's Rainbow just the other day.

We really need you to stop breaking HN's rules though. You've been doing it a ton.