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Re:Can Injection: keyless car theft by tantalor on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @11:20AM (#35455705)
> monthly "safety package" for $7.99

Toyota subscription services described here: https://www.toyota.com/connected-services/

One of these is "safety connect" that does stuff like SOS button and stolen vehicle locator.

It is not for the built-in safety features like collision detection and lane departure alert.

Re:Can Injection: keyless car theft by kwhitefoot on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @11:41AM (#35456005)
All new cars in the EU have to have always online SOS connectivity so I don't think anyone can charge for it

" eCall is a system used in vehicles across the EU which automatically makes a free 112 emergency call if your vehicle is involved in a serious road accident. You can also activate eCall manually by pushing a button. "

"Compulsory for new car models

If you buy a new model of car, approved for manufacture after 31 March 2018, it must have the 112-based eCall system installed."

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/security-and-em...

Re:Can Injection: keyless car theft by tantalor on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @11:43AM (#35456051)
Okay, that's another way of saying everyone pays for it through higher prices or taxes or whatever, and you can't opt out of it.
Re:Can Injection: keyless car theft by nerdbert on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:35PM (#35457694)
Wait until you hear about seat belts.
Re:Can Injection: keyless car theft by catiopatio on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @03:34PM (#35459303)
Seat belts don’t spy on me.
Re:Can Injection: keyless car theft by rasz on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @03:45PM (#35459433)
Seat occupancy sensor for the airbag sure does, it even weighs your ass.
Re:Can Injection: keyless car theft by catiopatio on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @04:05PM (#35459707)
The occupancy sensor isn’t the problem — the problem is the mandatory cellular uplink that shares the data with the manufacturer.
Re:Can Injection: keyless car theft by kwhitefoot on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @11:52AM (#35456189)
That applies to all state mandated stuff I suppose. But it does mean the system can benefit from an economy of scale.
Re:Can Injection: keyless car theft by mdp2021 on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @06:23PM (#35461233)
It can be disabled - though by the manufacturer only -, as expressed in the regulation.