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Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by brookst on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:29AM (#35453809)
It’s of questionable taste to use someone’s death to advance your politics when the facts are known and can be fairly used as evidence that your tribe is right about something.

It’s in poor taste indeed to acknowledge that you don’t know the facts of a murder, and to still insist that the killing supports your politics.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by vuln on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:41AM (#35453996)
Right.

“Just part & parcel of living in a _big city_.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3801018/Terror-atta...

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by TylerE on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @10:01AM (#35454384)
Statistically, most crimes occur in big cities because that's where the people are.

My town of 80k, which feels perfectly safe 99% of the time, has had >2x the per capita murder rate of NYC, and has for years.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by catiopatio on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @04:01PM (#35459663)
My town of 104k, which actually is perfectly safe 99% of the time, has less than 1/5th the per capita murder rate of NYC, and has for years.

I dare say my town is a great deal safer than your town. I wonder what the difference is.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by blog0r on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @04:26PM (#35459903)
you seem to be responding to the wrong post
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by stnmtn on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:46PM (#35456975)
This quote has been repeated for years and is completely misquoted as it literally splices together parts of the quote. The original quote was

"Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job, you got to support the security services."

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/what-londons-mayor-really-s...

This is a quote that I'm sure you would agree with, as would anyone. Stop spreading this misinformation.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by chitowneats on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:35AM (#35453914)
I suppose we should bury our heads in the sand while our fellow citizens are being robbed, stabbed, etc? Sounds pretty convenient for a different set of political beliefs.

A person is stabbed to death in public in downtown SF, and you're suggesting it was not a random attack? That it was a premeditated killing, in public, with a knife? Give me a break. This is not an isolated incident. We are absolutely sick of this in SF.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by TylerE on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @10:41AM (#35455069)
High-profile crypto entrepreneurs are are not exactly random targets.

Could it be random? Sure.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by flavius29663 on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @10:02AM (#35454389)
> use someone’s death to advance your politics

Are you shying away from discussing politics whenever there is a school shooting as well?

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by brookst on Thursday April 06, 2023 @08:07AM (#35467227)
Sure. I object equally when someone says “we don’t know the facts, but assuming the killer was Islamic, this is further proof of how bad Islam is” (substitute Christian or whatever).

It is always poor taste to project one’s politics into the uncertainty around a tragedy and then turn around and use the imagined facts to argue politics.

I’m less opposed to using established, non-imaginary facts.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by flavius29663 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @02:40PM (#35472557)
> I’m less opposed to using established, non-imaginary facts.

This to me sounds like you like to talk politics when a tragedy strikes, but only if the politics is on your side.

For example, SF decaying can be argued as an established, non-imaginary fact. It's easy to hide behind "facts", 'statistics", "science" to push your political point, thinking you are infallible. Even more so, a lot of people say "it's not even politics, it's basic science" - but these are all fallacies. In the end, almost everything can be traced back to politics.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by VoodooJuJu on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:46PM (#35457854)
I can't think of a stronger reason to start getting political, to start rallying for a change, than when brothers-in-arms, when innocents, are falling to the sword.
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by brookst on Thursday April 06, 2023 @08:09AM (#35467237)
What change do you rally for when you don’t know if it was a targeted murder for personal motives or a stochastic result of a broken down political system?
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by rullelito on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @02:45PM (#35458700)
The truth hurts
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by levzettelin on Thursday April 06, 2023 @04:51AM (#35465900)
I can see why people would think the second point is "poor taste" (although I'm not sure if I agree), but definitely don't see why the first would be "questionable".