Re:FBI Seizes Bot Shop ‘Genesis Market’ Amid Arrests Targeti...
by otr2k22 on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @05:40AM
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This was a tactic used by the german far left around rudi dutschke and to some extend the RAF.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_march_through_the_institu...
imho it didn't go very well, they all got assimilated in the end. ( for germans see Joschka Fischer ).
Re:FBI Seizes Bot Shop ‘Genesis Market’ Amid Arrests Targeti...
by Mezzie on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @02:33PM
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The two types of activism are symbiotic. The obnoxious, loud, and visible activism takes the attention (and resources) while test ballooning the expanding or moving of the Overton Window. Changing institutions without drawing attention is way easier when someone else is drawing the attention, and louder activists are also a great 'stick' for convincing others to do things your way: "Well, if we don't do this, those people might be the ones making these decisions...'
And from a loud activist point of view, the slow and steady/sneaky workers are the ones who can do things like bail people out of jail, funnel money and information, etc.
it is significantly more subversive to slowly, dilligently and without much attention change existing institutions rather than 'sticking it to the man'. That's the difference between teenager hacktivism and effectively pursuing change. The boring, blue haired kids at gov. institutions are going to run them in 20-30 years.
Obnoxious, loud, visible activism or counter-culture usually just exists to draw attention to itself while generally getting nothing done, and even taking pride in that fact.