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Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by newZWhoDis on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:15PM (#35448441)
I do not have any profiles installed, and none of my devices are managed.

I’m aware this could potentially be fixed by enrolling all my family’s devices in an MDM.

But I mean come on, wipe everyone’s phone to enroll in MDM? Seems pretty crazy when the phone should just let you control what it does/does not join.

Edit: I misread your post, I see now it was more suggesting a test. My bad.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by stacktrust on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:21PM (#35448486)
If Carrier MDM policy can override Configurator/Enterprise MDM policy, then corporate admins will likely be unhappy about their lack of control over enterprise device networking.

Have telcos forgotten the pre-iPhone disaster of telco-controlled devices? https://www.quora.com/Why-was-the-iPhone-initially-exclusive...

> The landscape of the cell phone market was very different pre-2007. Most notably, the carriers had complete control over what phones were allowed on their network. A carrier could nix a feature that had been in R&D for years and suddenly you couldn’t sell your new phone with this amazing feature. They were especially protective of data and overloading their networks, which led to browsers on phones being stripped down and limited. The whole “full web” was not a technical impossibility, it was just that carriers wouldn’t allow phones on the network that had a full browser.

https://archive.is/4ZCH5

> Apple bucked the rules of the cellphone industry by wresting control away from the normally powerful wireless carriers ... Mr. Jobs once referred to telecom operators as "orifices" that other companies, including phone makers, must go through to reach consumers.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by mynameisvlad on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @03:09AM (#35450442)
Since when did you have to wipe your phone to enroll it in MDM? You don’t even have to wipe it if you unenroll, and that would certainly be more important since the phone could have downloaded sensitive content in that time.
Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by Yechi770 on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @03:36AM (#35450629)
Don't know since when, but definitely for a few years. To fully unenroll too. The reason is because in order to fully manage the device it needs to reset and restart in a managed mode.
Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by TheHappyOddish on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @05:52AM (#35451645)
This isn't true. You can enroll and unenroll without wiping. You can't _supervise_ without wiping. These are two seperate (commonly confused) things.
Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by mynameisvlad on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @11:32AM (#35455874)
I mean, you plainly don’t. I asked a rhetorical question and made it clear by explaining you don’t.

This thread explains the difference between enrolling and supervising and is pretty clear that enrollment does not require a wipe.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Intune/comments/yd7mo5/do_you_need_...