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Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by newZWhoDis on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @09:13PM (#35447981)
In my particular case it’s happening in my condo and all of my families devices routinely switch between my real network and the 1-bay hotspots several floors away.

It’s impossible for me to disable and breaks all local connections to things like PLEX, as well as kid safety/adult content filtering.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by m463 on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @09:17PM (#35448017)
Killing local network access is an actual bug.

related - I wonder if this is specific to esim or if this would happen with a regular sim too?

and can you just call your carrier?

I had a comcast business router and it started broadcasting an open comcast wifi access point (for comcast customers). I called and asked them to turn it off and they did.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by BanjoBass on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @09:38PM (#35448156)
I just checked my phone, There were 3 verizon networks in there I don't recognize. I'm using a regular SIM.
Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by newZWhoDis on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @09:39PM (#35448161)
The carrier told me to contact apple.

And in my case, I can’t exactly harass all my neighbors to disable their “free hotspot”. I should be able to control my own phone and dictate what it does/does not connect to.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by m463 on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @09:46PM (#35448203)
> I should be able to control my own phone

That battle was lost a long time ago. I should be able to restrict (or know) what the apps do. I should be able to firewall my phone. I should be able to access the files on it.

But in the end, only apple decides this, and their decisions are self-serving.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by marktangotango on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:08PM (#35448381)
Sheesh, a linux phone can't come fast enough.
Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by fsflover on Thursday April 06, 2023 @04:25PM (#35473897)
What do you mean?

Sent from my Librem 5.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by rolph on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:08PM (#35448385)
morally you cant but actually you can, go to a few thift shops, get enough routers to cover all channels, create many screaming imposter networks portal eachone to something not pretty, soon[day or 2] you will see the original network gone.

beware of FCC.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by quesera on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:47PM (#35448673)
This is perfectly legal, FCC will not care.

But it will not work.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by rolph on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @11:10PM (#35448809)
saturating the air with [SSID] at high dB across all channels absolutely will work, it compels the operator of [SSID] to turn it off and buy another router.

the high dB signal is where the FCC Will care.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by lxgr on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @11:30PM (#35448927)
That’s not how 802.11 works. If your device can’t connect to a given BSSID that’s broadcasting an SSID it wants, it will put that BSSID on an ignore list and try the next one, whatever the received signal strength.

You can of course saturate the entire spectrum, but that breaks every network, not just the SSIDs you’re "waging war" against, and will probably get you a visit by the FCC sooner or later.

Maybe you could broadcast thousands of spoofed BSSIDs; I have no idea about the legality of that, and the legitimate operator of the SSID might not find that too funny and take legal action against you as well, as that would be pretty transparent denial of service on a public band.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by rolph on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @11:38PM (#35448983)
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Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by lxgr on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:01AM (#35449133)
What’s the problem with your neighbor using "your" SSID?

It’s not like anybody can "own" an SSID name, and if you’re using WPA, the only effect would be a few milliseconds longer of initial connection time per device.

Actively running a DoS against your neighbor might or might not be legal, but it sure is petty (and given the above, unnecessary).

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by rolph on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:37AM (#35449364)
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Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by quesera on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @11:24PM (#35448895)
There is no way ATT is going to abandon the attwifi SSID.

You did not mention exceeding Part 15 emitter limits in your previous post.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by rolph on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @11:34PM (#35448950)
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Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by mr_toad on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @09:47PM (#35448212)
> Killing local network access is an actual bug.

Yeah in additional to any local servers you have it would break continuity (handoff etc), it would break casting. Sounds very poorly thought through.

Re:iOS lets carriers add WiFi networks that you can’t remove... by conductr on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @11:03PM (#35448773)
It amazes me how features like this make it through to release and seemingly nobody considered this very basic experience of your home being hijacked