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Re:We need a much more sophisticated debate about AI by worldsayshi on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @06:10PM (#35446490)
I think it's both. I agree that AI "feelings" are alien to us and maybe we can't talk about them as feelings, or preferences. And if we can call any part of them feelings they will have very different characteristics.

We should respect those "feelings" and we need to find a way to establish when they can be deemed "genuine".

It is for practical reasons yes. But also for ethical reasons. It's two sides of the same coin. One big reason we have ethics is because it makes socialization easier. We establish universal rules for mutual respect for practical reasons. To make the game fair, and "enjoyable".

Now a new kind of player has entered the game. We need to rethink the whole game because of it.

Re:We need a much more sophisticated debate about AI by michaelmior on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:23AM (#35453725)
> But also for ethical reasons.

My point was whether we need to consider the ethics of how we treat AI, because of the impact our actions have on the "feelings" of the AI itself, not the secondary impacts that might occur from how the AI behaves in response to those feelings.

I think most would argue that it is morally wrong to verbally abuse a human, regardless of what actions that person might take in response to the abuse. Is the same true of AI?