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Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by eikenberry on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @01:09PM (#35442792)
Writing technical specs a fancy way to say coding. This reads to me like you're writing a new programming language tightly integrated with an IDE that targets a new AI based compiler.
Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by eterps on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @01:35PM (#35443196)
That's a brilliant and witty way to put it :D
Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by spyder on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:09PM (#35443724)
Hmm... Where is the new language in this? The specs is just human language and some JSON for defining structures. It's more so that the human language becoming a programming language with the help of AI.
Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by xwdv on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @03:30PM (#35444779)
You’re right, it is just English language.

And over time, people will discover some basic phrases and keywords they can use to get certain results from the AI, and find out what sentence structures work best for getting a desired outcome. These will become standard practices and get passed along to other prompt engineers. And eventually they will give the standard a name, so they don’t have to explain it every time. Maybe even version schemes, so humans can collaborate amongst themselves more effectively. And then some entrepreneurs will sell you courses and boot camps on how to speak to AI effectively. And jobs will start asking for applicants to have knowledge of this skill set, with years of experience.

Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by namaria on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @03:51PM (#35445039)
>And over time, people will discover some basic phrases and keywords they can use to get certain results from the AI, and find out what sentence structures work best for getting a desired outcome.

This just sounds like a language that is hard to learn, undocumented, and hard to debug

Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by xwdv on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @04:16PM (#35445315)
Yes, but think of the savings!
Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by akomtu on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @04:17PM (#35445321)
Until one day a new LLM gets released, GPT5, that doesn't recognize any of those special words. Mastering prompt-speak is essentially mastering undefined behaviors of C compilers.
Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by xwdv on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @05:30PM (#35446103)
What you could do is just continue speaking to GPT4 and have it output prompts compatible with GPT5. Pretty simple.
Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by akomtu on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @09:07PM (#35447941)
gpt4 won't know anything about gpt5, you would have to make a sophisticated prompt for gpt4 that converts its quirks into gpt5's quirks, but if you know so much about both LLMs, why not to use gpt5 directly?
Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by xwdv on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @09:13PM (#35447986)
The idea is someone would first make a prompt for GPT4 that outputs GPT5 enabled prompts. You would initialize GPT4 with it, and then speak to GPT4 to compile prompts to GPT5 context which then gets fed to GPT5.

Although you may know about LLMs, you might specialize in speaking to specific models and know how to get optimal results based on their nuances.

Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by smrtinsert on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @06:27PM (#35446692)
prompts results aren't static and will definitely not be guaranteed over time...
Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by SoftTalker on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:10PM (#35443730)
Yes, as always the essential complexity of software is understanding and describing the problem you are trying to solve. Once that is done well, the code falls out fairly easily.
Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by eightysixfour on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @04:29PM (#35445465)
That’s like saying a painting, once they understand what they are trying to paint, just falls out of a painter. It is true but not useful for not-painters.
Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by BobbyJo on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @05:10PM (#35445901)
I think the difference here is that code is effectively a description, so there is an extremely tight coupling between describing the task and the task itself.

You could tell me, in the most painstaking detail, what you want me to paint, and I still couldn't paint it. You can take any random person on the street and tell them exactly what to type and they'd be able to "program".

Re:Show HN: We are building open-source IDE powered by AI ag... by eikenberry on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @06:18PM (#35446587)
That's just picking nits with the metaphor. Change it to a poet or a novelist and it works the same. If you tell a person exactly what to write they are just a fancy typewriter, not a poet or novelist. Same with code.