Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by 71a54xd on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @01:13PM
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It also seems like the market has strongly skewed to the senior side of things (8+ yrs exp).
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by Workaccount2 on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @01:24PM
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Our entry level guy is GPT-4.
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by baremetal on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:01PM
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Yeah it's like having a junior you can hand small bits of code off too.
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by dangwhy on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @01:45PM
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thats why i am seeing. And it was mostly young people that YOLO relocated to hawaii and breckenridge that are now looking for remote jobs so its double whammy for them
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by wyclif on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:25PM
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Yep, I'm currently on the market and I'm seeing a lot of requests for people with impossibly high years of experience if you're a junior.
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by gopher_space on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @05:53PM
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From my perspective few of the projects asking for this level of experience require it. I have no idea why people aren't recruiting curious randos off the street at $60k a pop, but I'd imagine that onboarding looks complicated if you can't tell the difference between infrastructure jank and your actual job.
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by UncleOxidant on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:55PM
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I still see plenty of remote jobs to apply for on LinkedIn, but I have noticed that there are a lot more applicants now. A few months back it would often be single digit numbers of applicants. Now it will often be well into the double digits of applicants.
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by atraac on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:36AM
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Those numbers mean nothing. They are borderline rand() sometimes, in most cases when there's an external application form it will count you as an applicant right after clicking. Whether you actually applied doesn't matter.
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by WinstonSmith84 on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:57PM
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I'm afraid it's not the only explanation (economy), but it's still a very good reason. Looking at myself, I've been working remotely for the last 7 years and there is just no way back, even if another company would pay me 2x or 3x more. Remote working is a massive perk and thanks (due) to Covid, a lot of people became aware of this.
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by mythrwy on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @03:24PM
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Yes. Additionally I'm not moving across the country to live in a strange and expensive city to work on your CRUD app.
There is no way back, even at 2X or 3x more.
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by hdjjhhvvhga on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @03:53PM
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The salary I get now (working remotely) allows me to work for 3 months and relax for 9, should I desire to do so. I guess if someone offered me 9X more for working in the office, I would agree - but I'd quit after 3 months to enjoy my freedom for the next 3 years. (Or, what is more probable, take a less paid but remote job as I enjoy doing what I do and want to stay competitive in the market.)
Less than that - sorry, I'm not interested.
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by moneywoes on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:22PM
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Amazing. Are you in a low col area?
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by hdjjhhvvhga on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:00PM
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I've been working in tech for several years so my salary is quite decent. My main cost is rent, around €800. I cook myself most of the time. My second half is working full time which gives us another layer of security.
Until recently, the other major cost was the education of my kids, but fortunately that expense is now gone.
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by recfab on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @04:41PM
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I'm not sure I could go back to in-office work, but also moving cross country isn't even feasible for me at this stage in my life, even if I wanted to.
Re:Tell HN: The ratio of wants-to-be-hired to is-hiring is a...
by brailsafe on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @05:14PM
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I agree with trivializing the prospect, but for me personally it's less about the nature of the work or the city, but the ludicrous instability that a company would hope you don't think about. It's fine if where you're coming from is a desolate market and you're wanting to seriously improve either your income or location for personal reasons, that's a sensible risk. But doing it for a more lateral move, or for marginal gains, I'd be asking myself how committed this employer is to having me; the answer is usually zero. So I go and get my expensive apartment in a scarce market and start working away on whatever inane problem company x is paying me for, and 2 months in it turns out, "oops, we overhired and have to refocus our energy on digitizing, solutioning, and don't forget problemization and alignment".
One case where this would be worthwhile though would be one where you wanted to move there anyway, and the company is arbitrary
Meanwhile remote employers are seeing less employee turnover, so don’t need to do much hiring, especially since many grew headcount considerably in 2021/2022. Which means many of those people looking for remote jobs aren’t finding a lot of success. (We’re remote and hiring for backfills only right now, not that there are many of those - and I suspect a lot of other companies are in the same spot.)
Remote roles are likely over-represented on HN, so if there are a lot of candidates chasing those roles, you’d expect a lot of growth in “who wants to be hired” posts.
I’d expect this dynamic to shift in the back half of the year. People are finding out about promotions and comp changes around this time and many will be disappointed. This will likely cause a lot of people sitting tight at remote companies to get back on the market. Some will find roles elsewhere, creating more backfills and more hiring.
Not to mention that there’s a glut of late-stage companies seeking to IPO when the IPO market reopens, likely later this year or early next. When companies IPO they usually hire a lot beforehand to tighten up processes, then do even more hiring a few months later as existing employees get their exits and decide to move on or take a break.
So the medium/long term outlook is still positive, at least.