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Re:Finland becomes the 31st member of NATO by itsoktocry on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:18AM (#35440035)
>NATO expansion just neutralizes Russian ability to force its will upon its neighbors through threat of aggression

Imagine taking even a cursory look at post-WW2 world history and coming to this naive conclusion. NATO deployed forces in Afghanistan and Iraq, offensively, did they not?

Re:Finland becomes the 31st member of NATO by buu700 on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:23AM (#35440119)
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_51977.htm

The March 2003 campaign against Iraq was conducted by a coalition of forces from different countries, some of which were NATO member countries and some were not. NATO as an organization had no role in the decision to undertake the campaign or to conduct it.

Re:Finland becomes the 31st member of NATO by _djo_ on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:22AM (#35440116)
No. NATO deployed some forces in Afghanistan as a result of the triggering of Article 5 in response to the 9/11 attacks, though it wasn't an all-out action and wasn't carried out through NATO's command structures.

NATO did not deploy offensive forces into Iraq as an organisation. Some NATO members did on their own accord outside of NATO, but the organisation itself only ever had a non-combat training and advisory mission.

Re:Finland becomes the 31st member of NATO by staringback on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:56AM (#35440661)
What about Yugoslavia in 1999?
Re:Finland becomes the 31st member of NATO by _djo_ on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:58AM (#35440718)
What about it? It wasn't part of the original question.
Re:Finland becomes the 31st member of NATO by nirav72 on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:21AM (#35440091)
NATO in Afghanistan was because of article 5 after 9/11. Also NATO was not in Iraq. There were some NATO member countries in Iraq as part of a coalition the Bush administration put together. But Iraq was not a NATO operation.
Re:Finland becomes the 31st member of NATO by staringback on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:56AM (#35440675)
What about Yugoslavia in 1999?
Re:Finland becomes the 31st member of NATO by nirav72 on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:54PM (#35444328)
In Yugoslavia , there was literally a civil war happening along ethnic lines on the European continent. Not to mention genocide.
Re:Finland becomes the 31st member of NATO by lolinder on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:31AM (#35440239)
Both wars were coalitions that happened to involve many NATO countries. Finland participated in both wars even before joining NATO, so it's not clear that the risk of them joining offensive wars is higher now.
Re:Finland becomes the 31st member of NATO by piva00 on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:21AM (#35440101)
They did, and that started a much larger discussion about what was the role of NATO in the 21st century. Before Russia's aggression NATO was heading towards irrelevance, Iraq and Afghanistan were a major point on opposition to NATO in Europe.

Putin's decision lit a fire on that, now NATO has a purpose again.