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Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by Teever on Monday April 03, 2023 @11:24PM (#35434614)
Does anyone else notice the derailing posts that occur from users who crawl out of the woodwork whenever Elon Musk suffers some sort of public defeat?

What's up with that?

Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by BenSahar on Monday April 03, 2023 @11:30PM (#35434673)
It’s a cult of personality created by 10+ years of fawning press coverage.
Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by KennyBlanken on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @01:35AM (#35435517)
It's also his bullying and bigotry.

He's admired by a lot of people who have gotten into trouble for saying bigoted things, who felt that there was nothing wrong with what they said or did (scroll up to see someone complaining that this is about "getting offended by some words and a picture") or refuse to acknowledge concepts like systemic racism...and think they were wronged. Victims of liberals, wokeness, "PC police" and so on.

They see him saying the same sort of things they did, and mistake the ability of an oligarch to escape consequences for almost anything...for "courage" and "free thinking."

Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by Teever on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:12AM (#35435746)
I don't think it's just fans. I think Musk pays people to bot social media.
Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by panick21_ on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:50AM (#35435998)
Its kind of funny to claim 10+ years of fawning press coverage when the reality was that electric cars and by extension Musk go ridiculed and called dangerous and unsafe in the media. The same goes for every little issue with SpaceX.

Coverage of Musk has always been mixed and in main stream media often covered negatively.

Maybe in the more techy press it was mostly positive. But even then, go threw history here on HN. The idea that Tesla was scam and just about to go bankrupt was common wisdom and anybody who disagree got down-voted.

So the idea that positive press coverage is responsible is kind or ridiculous.

Its more like its the endless pro-vs-anti Musk wars that lead to this effect. And that happens in the media as it does on HN.

Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by BenSahar on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:50AM (#35440546)
Oh yeah, mainstream media really crapped on him.

That's why he showed up alongside Tony Stark in Iron Man 2 and was treated like a god on an episode of Big Bang Theory.

The media, for the most part, treated him gently until the Thai cave incident when people started to catch onto the idea that this "quirky genius" might be an asshole.

Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by panick21_ on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @11:56AM (#35441660)
You are just doing selection bias.

There was lots of high profile reporting calling Musk dumb for believing in EV and landing rockets. Media constantly using burning Tesla to show how bad EV are. The most important car show in the world, as mainstream as it gets, shit on Tesla hard. Lots of interviews with former CEOs of car companies explaining how dumb Tesla was.

Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by the_only_law on Friday April 07, 2023 @09:48AM (#35481516)
> That's why he showed up alongside Tony Stark in Iron Man 2

So did fucking Larry Ellison lol. Wasn’t that movie basically an ad for Oracle.

Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by jebronie on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @07:18AM (#35437869)
Maybe in your filter bubble.
Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by brandonagr2 on Monday April 03, 2023 @11:45PM (#35434780)
Does anyone notice the derailing posts of people meta complaining about other people complaining whenever Tesla comes up?
Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by user- on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @12:15AM (#35434971)
Perfect Example. Literally all your comments are on Musk related posts.
Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by dannyr on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @12:20AM (#35435017)
But if we don't defend the billionaires, they'll come after us commoners next. /s
Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by thaumasiotes on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @12:26AM (#35435063)
> if we don't defend the billionaires, they'll come after us commoners next.

Funnily enough, that's exactly what happened under communism.

Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by oblio on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:47AM (#35435971)
Attacking billionaires is communism? You should tell that to the US around 1880, then.
Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by thaumasiotes on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @05:19AM (#35437060)
Communism is attacking billionaires, using an increasingly inclusive definition of "billionaires".

All I'm doing is observing that not only is "if we don't defend the billionaires, they'll come after us commoners next" true, it is a major feature of recent history. That sentence could serve as a decent summary of the 20th century.

Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by oblio on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @08:10AM (#35438302)
Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by seattle_spring on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @01:26AM (#35435453)
Seems in this case it's more that some white kids are feeling threatened that the behavior they likely exhibit at work is finally being punished properly. They're scared, and it's coming out as anger via an anonymous message board.
Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by maximus-decimus on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:42AM (#35435938)
People love to hate on Musk. What I find bizzare is that 15 years ago it was NickelBack and Justin Beiber. Nowaday it's Bezos/Musk. Not sure if I just don't live in the same circle since I'm twice as old or Tech Bros are the new pop stars.
Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by MrOwnPut on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:45AM (#35435961)
It's the Reddit hive mind mentality.

Doesn't start entirely organic but it ends up being nearly 100% organic hate for certain topics.

Useful idiots start parroting hit campaigns and it becomes "common knowledge" for them which they repeat whenever the topic comes up, creating more useful idiots.

See any "controversial" topic here. Eich/Brave, Elon/Tesla, Facebook/React. It's all the same talking points, some being years old, most being purely emotional/subjective.

If you respond back they'll just call you a paid shill or troll, but if you don't respond back the echo chamber goes unchallenged and makes more useful idiots to parrot those same talking points to restart the cycle.

Funny you mention Nickleback, it was the first time I noticed the hive mind hate. Personally they are a really good band and everyone I know (outside of Reddit) likes them and knows pretty much every single one of their songs, wonder who Chad Kroeger pissed off.

Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by maximus-decimus on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @12:49PM (#35442508)
My theory is Chad/Beiber/Murk/Bezos piss off people mostly by over-saturation in media. Imagine you don't like them but then every piece of media keeps talking to you about it non-stop for 5 years. At least they don't play recordings of Musk at the mall, but the amount of articles talking about him is just absolutely insane.
Re:Tesla ordered to pay more than $3M to former worker in ra... by zug_zug on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:14AM (#35439957)
I'm not really sure how you can compare those two. Mocking nickleback was a pseudo-joke like hating pineapple pizza, used for social comfort.

Bezos is not that. It's maybe a bit exaggerated where it might seem like people think he's the worst person, but in reality he's just a name that everybody knows who most people think is a bad person on multiple levels - but the approach to management of quantifying everyone and treating them like machines so that they have wild turnover is something that a lot of people all agree is awful and repugnant.

I'm sure if you want to understand why Musk is hated you can google it, but he clearly courts controversy and tries to get attention by saying outlandish things and it usually backfires. His handling of twitter seems toxic to a lot of people (Just work crazy hard and sleep in the office or you suck!). Then there was the sexual harrassment too right? He never apologizes for any of it that I've seen. Also there are accusations he's manipulated stock prices for a meme. And at this point I think a lot of people think he's too chaotic/random to believe what he says afterall, even if he gave an apology.

Gates is a good counterexample. Either of these people could act like Gates and be less hated.