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Re:Alibaba breaks itself up in six by munificent on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:08PM (#35430503)
> he hit it big several times, that’s not just luck.

The odds of any given entrepreneur getting lucky several times in a row is very small.

Given a large enough entrepreneurs, the odds of one of them getting lucky several times in a row gets very large. We just don't see all the ones who tried and failed, or succeeded once or twice and fizzled out.

I don't doubt that Musk has some skills and appropriate personality traits as well, but luck is likely the dominating factor.

Re:Alibaba breaks itself up in six by midasuni on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @04:22AM (#35436650)
I think that’s fair, but PayPal, spacex and Tesla are all successes, and all had a lot of musk in them.

That either seems extreme luck or there’s something else

Re:Alibaba breaks itself up in six by gordian-mind on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @12:40PM (#35442359)
That statement is incredibly disconnected from reality. Are you suggesting that rockets fly through luck?
Re:Alibaba breaks itself up in six by munificent on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:14PM (#35443799)
Musk is not a rocket. There is a company that successfully puts rockets into space that he happens to be CEO of. Whether that company would be successfully putting rockets into space with someone else at the helm is unknown, but I strongly suspect that his own contribution is not as great as would seem.
Re:Alibaba breaks itself up in six by gordian-mind on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @05:21PM (#35446003)
> There is a company that successfully puts rockets into space that he happens to be CEO of.

What an hilarious amount of bad faith! What drives you to resent him that much? Envy? It's okay: he's achieved a lot, but maybe you can too if you work at it.

Re:Alibaba breaks itself up in six by munificent on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @07:17PM (#35447141)
I think Musk is a bad person, but I don't carry any particular resentment or anger towards him.

However, I think it's an unhelpful mindset for others to believe that Musk is some sort of model for entrepreneurial success.

Re:Alibaba breaks itself up in six by gordian-mind on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:33PM (#35456789)
> I think Musk is a bad person, but I don't carry any particular resentment or anger towards him.

Then maybe you should scrutinize who you get your information from: intelligent people who have worked with Musk, or random journalists and forumers that repeat talking points such as "this immense success over several decades of active executive role is just pure luck".

> However, I think it's an unhelpful mindset for others to believe that Musk is some sort of model for entrepreneurial success.

What an interesting thing to think! The person with arguably the greatest track record of entrepeneurial success alive should, under no occasion, be taken as some sort of model for entrepreneurial success. If you have contenders for this position, I'm interested.