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Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by tayo42 on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:20AM (#35418519)
>They're obeying the laws, not being reckless or getting into trouble. They're minding their own business

If you're not there how do you you know? They could easily be pissing people off.

Adults can't confront others kids about their behavior directly without getting shit for it them selves. What else are you supposed to do?

People's kids never do anything wrong. Parents take it personal. Wouldn't be surprised if you get offended and take this personally if you read this

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by kelseyfrog on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:37AM (#35418618)
I'd expect the police would say, "Please have your kids not piss people off." Instead the police say, "We got a report of kids playing outside. We know this is fine, but we have to check up anyways." If my kiddos are pissing people off then the people reporting it are doing a very poor job explaining their perspective.
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by tayo42 on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:39AM (#35418628)
Idk why you expect the police to do anything, let alone provide detail. They don't give a shit
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by Dylan16807 on Monday April 03, 2023 @01:06AM (#35418772)
What? They want the police to not do anything.
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by freddie_mercury on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:34AM (#35418594)
> If you're not there how do you you know?

Because that's not what the police report was about?

The police don't get summoned because kids are causing problems. They are getting summoned simply because there is no adult visible.

The OP isn't making some outlandish claim that requires massive amounts of evidence for us to accept. There are thousands of stories attesting to this kind of thing.

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by tayo42 on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:38AM (#35418621)
Where's the police report saying that lol.

I see kids out side on their own all the time, even in suburban California like some other comment suggested is an issue

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by atoav on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:24AM (#35418542)
> Adults can't confront others kids about their behavior directly without getting shit for it them selves. What else are you supposed to do?

The US is truly and utterly deranged. Kids should make their own experiences throughout their neighbourhood. And neighbours should scold them if they behave like shit. This is literally how it has been for most of humanity.

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by petodo on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:02AM (#35420086)
Not that my kids would do it (I get always praise how well behaved they are, I'd be actually happier especially if my son was more wild), but pissing people off is completely legal and not police business. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it illegal.

For instance buying apartment next to basketball playground and then complaining about kids playing there basketball and making noise is not police business but idiots call police on kids having fun, apparently they should be better staring at phones at home, so old people can then complain kids nowadays don't spend enough time outdoors.

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by tayo42 on Monday April 03, 2023 @10:17AM (#35423972)
So how do suggest responding to someone when they're pissing you off?

Then now add the scenario where it's probably socially unacceptable to interact with other people's kids

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by frumper on Monday April 03, 2023 @11:21AM (#35425217)
Go speak to the kids and if the parents come out because you're speaking to them, awesome, now you can talk to the parents!
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by tayo42 on Monday April 03, 2023 @11:45AM (#35425756)
shitty kids that needs to be spoken to listen to you or reason with you? or now your the guy yelling at kids? kids dont even totally developed empathy. and parents are totally reasonable about their kids?
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by frumper on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:00PM (#35426081)
Not talking to people is rarely the solution for resolving conflicts. You also have made some assumptions that someone pissing you off is now a shitty person. You've also set an unreasonably high bar of totally reasonable. I think most people are mostly reasonable about their kids. If you start off with "Hi, your shitty kid is pissing me off" then sure, you're not likely to get far, but if you explain legitimate concerns then most people are likely to respond reasonably.
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by ilteris on Monday April 03, 2023 @07:53AM (#35421932)
I wouldn't be surprised if you have zero clue about parenting.
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by sowbug on Monday April 03, 2023 @11:05AM (#35424884)
Pissing people off, confronting others, and getting shit are not illegal. In fact, they're all part of living in society.

"What else are you supposed to do?" Focus on something else. The cops are for enforcing the law, not for making you feel better.

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by tayo42 on Monday April 03, 2023 @11:46AM (#35425772)
You confront people directly about their negative behavior? in real life, this doesnt count haha
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by sowbug on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @11:43AM (#35441465)
I'm a parent of three kids. I'm a pet owner. I recently retired from management at a large company. I hope this answers your question.
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by tayo42 on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:18PM (#35443844)
Im talking from experience of dealing with shitty kids. Kids that break things, 10 year olds using the n word. You think these parents are going to be reasonable? I can tell you, no they're not. Maybe your kids are well behaved, maybe your a reasonable empathetic person and know how to live in a dense society. But it takes nothing to have kids and their are plenty of people that don't care about anyone else or what their kids do.

So what are you supposed to do?