Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English words

Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by shivekkhurana on Sunday April 02, 2023 @03:13PM (#35414043)

I watched a Dr. Huberman podcast on dance and language.

One of the key takeaways was that speaking and thinking are interrelated. When you are thinking, the same area of the vocal chords are activated but with a lower intensity compared to when you are speaking.

This means that what you cannot speak, you cannot think. By prioritising Italian, they are scientifically enabling the population to think more like Italians.

I don’t care about the ban though, it doesn’t affect me.

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Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by Karellen on Sunday April 02, 2023 @03:40PM (#35414292)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity

(aka Sapir-Whorf hypothesis)

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Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by MrJohz on Sunday April 02, 2023 @04:01PM (#35414520)

Note that there is a distinction to be made between linguistic determination (language controls how one thinks) and linguistics relativity (language affects how one thinks). The former idea is largely discredited, the latter accepted with lots of caveats.

What the previous poster if describing is a strong, deterministic relationship between language and thought (the idea that, by banning certain uses of language, they can control how Italians think). This is essentially nonsense: Italians are Italian, regardless of whether they work in a company run by a CEO or an "amministratore delegato".

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Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by circuit10 on Sunday April 02, 2023 @03:16PM (#35414076)

I would think it’s more that you think in abstract concepts, then automatically put that into words in the background, because sometimes you think of a concept but the words for it don’t come to you for a bit and also apparently some people don’t even have an internal monologue at all

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Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by akomtu on Sunday April 02, 2023 @03:30PM (#35414197)

How do you think about music, art or abstract math? I doubt an architect designer speaks his design in his head.

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Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by deafpolygon on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:44AM (#35435956)

> This means that what you cannot speak, you cannot think.

This is false.

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