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Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by nntwozz on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:25PM (#35402666)
If you ever wondered how they survive the pressure, from wikipedia:

TMAO (Trimethylamine N-oxide) is found in the tissues of marine crustaceans and marine fish, where it prevents water pressure from distorting proteins and thus killing the animal. The concentration of TMAO increases with the depth at which the animal lives; TMAO is found in high concentrations in the deepest-living described fish species, Pseudoliparis swirei, which was found in the Mariana Trench, at a recorded depth of 8,076 m (26,496 ft).

Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by dmix on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:31PM (#35402726)
Neat, the wiki for that fish:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoliparis_swirei

> Compared to shallow-water snailfish, Pseudoliparis swirei has several unusual adaptions for its dark and high pressure habitat, including transparent skin that lacks pigment, certain organs and eggs that are enlarged, the muscles are thinner, the ossification of its bones (notably the skull) is incomplete, it appears to have little or no ability to see, there are mechanisms that allow proteins in its body to still function, and differences in the cell membranes for maintaining their flexibility.

Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by undersolved5 on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:52PM (#35402925)
Very cool. the wiki for that other fish, the shallow water snailfish, Amblystomopsis.

According to Wikipedia, the Pseudoliparis amblystomopsis is a species of fish that belongs to the family Liparidae. Here are some key facts about the shallow water snailfish:

The shallow water snailfish is found in the Pacific Ocean, specifically in the Kuril-Kamchatka Trench, which is one of the deepest parts of the ocean.

Despite its name, the shallow water snailfish is actually adapted to live at extreme depths, with individuals having been found at depths of up to 7,500 meters (24,600 feet).

The shallow water snailfish is a small fish, typically measuring between 12 and 15 centimeters (4.7 to 5.9 inches) in length.

This fish has a soft, gelatinous body and lacks a swim bladder, which helps it to survive at high pressures in the deep sea.

The shallow water snailfish is a predator, feeding on small crustaceans and other fish that live in the deep ocean.

Because of its extreme depth range and unique adaptations, the shallow water snailfish has attracted the interest of researchers studying deep sea biology and physiology.

Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by transcriptase on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:48PM (#35402890)
An interesting case of evolution. In theory the first populations to become fixed for an allele or allelic combination that results in even a small increase in TMAO would be able to access previously untouched feeding grounds and flourish for some time.
Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by another2another on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:01PM (#35426099)
Probably also avoid predators, since they seem to be pretty much by themselves down there.
Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by crazygringo on Saturday April 01, 2023 @03:18PM (#35403186)
Fun fact: the (in)famous Icelandic "rotted shark" (hákarl) food is rotted/fermented in order to remove the toxic TMAO (and urea):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A1karl

Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by Mistletoe on Saturday April 01, 2023 @04:28PM (#35403775)
>Chef Anthony Bourdain described fermented shark as "the single worst, most disgusting and terrible tasting thing" he had ever eaten.[2]

Ok that’s saying something.

Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by ldhough on Saturday April 01, 2023 @06:20PM (#35404711)
I tried a ~1x1cm cube of it when I was in Iceland... that assessment is pretty spot-on.
Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by fbdab103 on Saturday April 01, 2023 @11:29PM (#35406887)
Did you keep it down? The pictures alone make it look very unappetizing, but I have to assume there is a significant aroma to the dish as well.
Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by rolisz on Sunday April 02, 2023 @03:15AM (#35408008)
I also tried it. The smell was absolutely horrible, but compared to that, the taste was not too bad.
Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by Kaibeezy on Saturday April 01, 2023 @06:46PM (#35404933)
So what’s natto’s excuse?
Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by fallingknife on Saturday April 01, 2023 @04:35PM (#35403829)
Is this why they expect this fish is near the depth limit? Does this mechanism stop working at higher pressures?
Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by fwlr on Saturday April 01, 2023 @08:46PM (#35405854)
Yeah, the cited depth limit of ~8.5km appears to be based on “fish use an osmolyte called TMAO to protect their proteins from pressure, and below 8.5km the concentration of TMAO required is so high that it inhibits cell function”. Apparently crustaceans get deeper by using five different osmolytes at once instead of relying on TMAO. (Info from helpful comment by mytailorisrich in this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35403838)
Re:Deepest fish ever caught on camera off Japan by kseistrup on Sunday April 02, 2023 @04:51AM (#35408513)
So in theory fish could adapt to life at greater depths by “learning” to produce more than one osmolyte.