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Re:Why Americans Care About Work So Much by chii on Saturday April 01, 2023 @01:23AM (#35397397)
> especially if you are able bodied and healthy

if you're abled bodied, and healthy, why should society bear a burden of giving you resources to live off long term?

To exist means to locate the resources to live (such as food, shelter, etc). These resources can no longer be foraged like in the days of old, and thus, the allocation of these resources must come from a mechanism we call market and employment today.

A social safety net is required, but only in so far as the time it takes to get yourself another job (any job - not just a preferred job). One should not be on social safety net permanently.

However, on the side of medical care, i do believe that universal medical care is more efficient, and cuts out as much middleman as possible.

Re:Why Americans Care About Work So Much by 7speter on Saturday April 01, 2023 @01:37AM (#35397462)
> A social safety net is required, but only in so far as the time it takes to get yourself another job (any job - not just a preferred job). One should not be on social safety net permanently

Oh you mean get a job now when employers are just collecting resumes for “talent pipelines” they can hire from at some future date, or just to improve morale of their current overworked employees?

And what if you’re an able bodied caretaker for a family member who is ill, disabled, or just elderly?

Re:Why Americans Care About Work So Much by renewiltord on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:53AM (#35397861)
Unemployment is incredibly low - besides which you can always train to be an ironworker. Make it to journeyman and it's just a matter of not fucking it up.
Re:Why Americans Care About Work So Much by s5300 on Saturday April 01, 2023 @01:38AM (#35397474)
>> A social safety net is required, but only in so far as the time it takes to get yourself another job

Or the time it takes to rehabilitate somebody with a fairly severe musculoskeletal disorder, especially when they’ve otherwise had $100k of various scholarship money invested in them.

However, absolutely nothing like that exists, ask how I know.

Re:Why Americans Care About Work So Much by Teever on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:26AM (#35397710)
Re:Why Americans Care About Work So Much by lisp-pornstar on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:33AM (#35397741)
>To exist means to locate the resources to live

I didn't understand the meaning of this sentence; does "means" here points to the expression of "requirement" or of "signification" ? (I am not a native speaker)

Re:Why Americans Care About Work So Much by chii on Saturday April 01, 2023 @04:02AM (#35398241)
yes, to exist requires one to locate resources to live.
Re:Why Americans Care About Work So Much by analognoise on Saturday April 01, 2023 @04:20PM (#35403708)
"These resources can no longer be foraged like in the days of old" - Why not?

The markets" and all that - it's artifice. Artifice to keep you busy. The scarcity is manufactured to keep you from realizing there is plenty and most people shouldn't be working.