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Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by 1123581321 on Friday March 31, 2023 @06:29PM (#35394606)
It matters because it’s ineffective to pursue the wrong root causes.
Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by Teever on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:11PM (#35395520)
Agreed. We should implement policies that prevent guns from getting into the hands of children, regardless of whether they're gang members or not.
Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by wkat4242 on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:33PM (#35395710)
That'll be very very difficult. Even very restrictive weapon ownership countries like Netherlands and Sweden have a big violent gang problem. And a policy as strict as they have is just totally unthinkable in the political reality of the US.

So a policy stricter than the US can have isn't enough to solve this problem. That's why it's better to aim at reducing accidental underage gun deaths which is much more achievable.

Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by Teever on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:49PM (#35395818)
It's so bizarre that America is the only country in the world that seems to face these kinds of problems.

As a Canadian who grew up in a household with a dozen firearms, I never once touched those firearms, and hardly ever saw them until I was taken to the range by my father and taught how to use them.

Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by erik_seaberg on Saturday April 01, 2023 @12:59AM (#35397286)
It wasn’t a problem for rural American kids to have access to guns in the 1950s. My dad routinely hunted small game before class.
Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by anon291 on Saturday April 01, 2023 @01:11AM (#35397346)
America is the only first world country to border South and Central America, which is the region of the world with a homicide rate orders of magnitude above any other. It is no surprise violence spills over due to proximity.
Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by adgjlsfhk1 on Saturday April 01, 2023 @01:43AM (#35397496)
I'm very interested in this border between South America and the US. most maps seem to be hiding it.

also, fun fact, when your government spends a hundred years assisting coups of democratic or socialist governments, those counties are going to have a lot of political instability.

Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by jjav on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:30AM (#35397728)
> America is the only first world country to border South and Central America

The United States has one border with a central America country (Mexico). Please show on the map where it has a border with any south American country?

Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by amrocha on Saturday April 01, 2023 @03:43AM (#35398138)
Are you seriously blaming the US's horrible society on all the latam countries they deliberately destabilized?
Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by orwin on Saturday April 01, 2023 @08:38AM (#35399803)
France have a border with South American countries, and is facing illegal incursion from Brazilian gangs in it's territory (and an army guy died for it last year if I remember correctly), still the gun violence in Guyana is pretty low (lower than Marseille). Not an excuse.
Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by rgmerk on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:34PM (#35396464)
Yes, there are gangs in those countries, but the thing is that gang members they don’t kill each other at nearly the same rate as they do in the US.
Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by rgmerk on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:53PM (#35396595)
Sweden’s murder rate is less than a fifth of the murder rate in the United States.

It seems like their policies do go a big way to solve the problem, as infeasible as they appear to be for the USA.

Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by wkat4242 on Saturday April 01, 2023 @12:48AM (#35397240)
You can't compare murder rates in the US with Sweden.

They have a real welfare system, diminishing social inequalities and with that the feeding ground for crime.

Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by adgjlsfhk1 on Saturday April 01, 2023 @01:40AM (#35397482)
we can do both
Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by rgmerk on Saturday April 01, 2023 @03:19AM (#35398009)
Sounds like a great idea…

…but it’s also worth pointing out that murder rates are also a lot lower than the US in other developed countries that don’t have Scandinavian levels of welfare transfers.

Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by wkat4242 on Saturday April 01, 2023 @09:15AM (#35400064)
The other developed countries still have much lower income differences between rich and poor than the US though. I think this is a bigger contributor to US crime levels than its gun policy.

Also, I don't understand the focus on murder rates. Compare all violent crime at least.

Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by mtts on Saturday April 01, 2023 @04:25AM (#35398395)
Don’t know about Sweden but the Netherlands does not have a “big violent gang problem”.

It has a problem with a few small and very violent gangs that occasionally gun down people in broad daylight, in the middle of the street, completely disregarding the safety of the people around them, which is bad but nothing like the gang problems in the US or Latin America.

Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by 1123581321 on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:16PM (#35395568)
Sarcasm noted. Hopefully you understand a multi-pronged approach is needed.
Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by Teever on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:25PM (#35395640)
I'm not being sarcastic.

A multi-pronged approach that involves reducing the amount of guns in American is a surefire way to reduce access to guns by children, both in gangs and out.

Re:The average American has the same life expectancy as the ... by 1123581321 on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:38PM (#35395753)
Sarcasm might’ve been the wrong word. I meant to say I see you reusing whatever words I write to disagree with them.