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Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by ChrisMarshallNY on Friday March 31, 2023 @07:53AM (#35385656)
Which pretty much sums up today's work culture. I was just talking about this same exact thing, yesterday.

That's absolutely heartbreaking.

In the old days, we would have a team, that would compete, as a team, against other corporations. Our team would stick together, work together, and, quite often, function as a unit; leveraging each others' strengths, and compensating for each others' weaknesses.

Nowadays, we look at our team members as "the competition." In fact, we may actually be making plans to move to the other team.

But I have written programs in C, that were still in use, 25 years later. I have written programs in PHP, that were still (are still) in use, 15 years later.

There'll always be room for the classics.

That said, I'm quite looking forward to seeing what I can do with the new AI stuff.

Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by swader999 on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:41AM (#35386221)
I never publish or react to individual velocity as a manager. It's all about what the dev and QA team gets across as a whole to the Done pile each week, and I use a rolling ten week average. I know what each person is doing still but if they spend four hours collaborating on something nobody loses points.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by Herval_freire on Friday March 31, 2023 @09:07AM (#35386565)
You're a good manager. But not everyone/company is like this.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by swader999 on Friday March 31, 2023 @09:31AM (#35386895)
Well my team wins more than most others and we've replaced teams and fixed many failed projects so that helps too.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by fnimick on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:35AM (#35386136)
Given how quickly income inequality is rising, can you blame people for taking any advantage possible to try to stay ahead of the curve? If it means throwing your teammates under the bus to get more money, that's unfortunate but it's going to happen.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by pc86 on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:33AM (#35386114)
The idea that nobody saw their coworkers as competition for a promotion, or bonus, or face-time with the boss in the past, and that there are no teams that stick together and work together today, is fanciful at best.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by ChrisMarshallNY on Friday March 31, 2023 @09:59AM (#35387273)
These are "Because I can find an exception, your position is invalid." arguments. Not sure I can recall the exact fallacy title, but it's a fairly typical debating tactic.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by digging on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:52PM (#35389825)
I disagree that there's a fallacy at play here. The GP (GGP) should support their bold claim that "times have changed" and "people/teams aren't the same as they used to be." If anything, that's an extremely common fallacy and is not to be believed without sufficient evidence.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by ChrisMarshallNY on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:43PM (#35390487)
Actually, that's a fairly typical thing to say to someone that's older, and has lived through those times.

And I am sorry. Things definitely used to be better than they are now, in some ways, and definitely used to be worse, in other ways (for example, it used to be a very white, very male demographic). It's not my fault that things went the way they did. Folks liked money, so folks built a culture that maximized profit, and eschewed humanity.

I am quite sorry about that, but it doesn't change the fact that it was not always so.

It's not in my personal interest to go about creating a slideshow on "how things used to be." I know what I know. I lived it. I ran teams, exactly like I described, and I was a proud member of very large, high-functioning teams that stuck together for decades without stabbing each other in the back.

Let's just agree to disagree, then, eh?

Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by digging on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:10PM (#35426311)
> I know what I know. I lived it.

I don't disbelieve you, but I'm saying your experience can't be generalized in that way. Only aggregate data can tell us these things. Your experience may well have followed the exact trajectory you've described, but maybe 90% of people see the opposite.

Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by AndrewKemendo on Friday March 31, 2023 @09:24AM (#35386790)
Yes this is the social-rot that is everywhere

Everyone is at best a temporary ally, friends and community groups are just atrophying daily as we continue to not invest in people and community and invest in more alienation.

Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by gkilmain on Friday March 31, 2023 @09:26AM (#35386814)
While maybe it does sum up our work culture it shouldn't influence how you work. Rarely have I seen someone who "runs faster" be more valued (monetarily or among senior peers) than someone who churns out quality and runs "a little slower".

Team is still very much a thing and if your team members are looking at each other as competition then that sounds like a culture thing, maybe the norm, still not acceptable.

Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by mattgreenrocks on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:05PM (#35389175)
The collateral damage of careerism is objectifying your coworkers as either enemies or things to manipulate in order to advance yourself. It's the belief that all software devs are temporarily embarrassed FAANG devs.

This mindset will damage you over the long run, and the resulting career success may or may not be able to offset it. A zero sum mindset will lock you into this view along with the accompanying anxiety.