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Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by MuffinFlavored on Thursday March 30, 2023 @10:43PM (#35381818)
I guess my question is more like

did he or did he not incite an insurrection on January 6th? there was an entire committee about it. he did, right? ok... so... not indicted, got it, moves slowly

did he have classified documents when he shouldn't have? yes. not indicted

did he do something wrong in regards to votes in georgia? yes. not indicted

i guess i just don't get it shrug it's as if like... based on the fact that he hasn't been indicted, you can conclude... he didn't do anything illegal, because if he did, he'd be indicted, right?

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by philistine on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:04AM (#35382811)
The remedy to his insurrection on January 6th was impeachment. He was impeached, and his jury found him not guilty. The jury in this case being the United States Senate.
Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by craigching on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:55AM (#35388059)
Impeachment is a political process, not a legal process.

EDIT: To back this up, from Wikipedia:

  In the United States, impeachment is a remedial rather than penal process,[13][14]: 8  intended to "effectively 'maintain constitutional government' by removing individuals unfit for office";[14]: 8  persons subject to impeachment and removal remain "liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law
Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by Godel_unicode on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:12AM (#35382869)
No. These things take time. If you’re going to indict a former president who has declared that he is going to run again you need to be totally sure about your case. It’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove.

Does it suck that it’s taking so long? Of course. Unfortunately, that’s how the system works.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by ncallaway on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:22AM (#35382941)
But all of the things you cite are "not indicted, yet". They're literally active investigations for all of those things.

At the federal level, Jack Smith is currently investigating the January 6th case, the related forgery of documents, and the classified documents. Since he's a special prosecutor if he declines to indict on the things in his remit he's required to file a report to Merrick Garland with his declination decision and reasoning. That hasn't happened yet.

Similarly for Georgia, a Special Grand Jury made a report recommending he be indicted. That then goes to a Grand Jury, which will make the decision on whether he be indicted. That Grand Jury hasn't sat yet, so that's also in process.

So, all of those things are in process. They haven't made a decision not to indict yet, so it's incorrect to draw conclusions assuming he won't be indicted for those things yet. It's too early to say, for each of the things you identified.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by nl on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:28AM (#35382985)
These are all separate cases.

> did he or did he not incite an insurrection on January 6th? there was an entire committee about it. he did, right? ok... so... not indicted, got it, moves slowly

The latest on this is that Mike Pence is going to appear before that grand jury: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/28/judge-says-pence-mu...

So the correct status is not yet indicted.

> did he have classified documents when he shouldn't have? yes. not indicted

Latest status: Some of Trump's lawyer's records must be presented to the court:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/22/trump-court-rejects...

not yet indicted.

> did he do something wrong in regards to votes in georgia? yes. not indicted

Trump's lawyer there is fighting to avoid him being indicted (as you'd expect):

In a 483-page filing, Trump’s attorney Drew Findling urged a state court in Georgia to prohibit an Atlanta-area district attorney there from filing charges related to Trump’s bid to subvert the 2020 election.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/20/trump-georgia-indic...

not yet indicted.

The legal system is slow, but I think it's fair to say that in all these cases the legal teams are being very careful because bringing a case against a former President is unprecedented, and they want to be sure it is a good case.