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Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by Tuna-Fish on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @09:02PM (#35366302)
OT, but it's a pet peeve:

> but it wasn't long before they could

The total amount of nuclear weapons ever built is laughably inadequate for the task of ending life on earth. They would not end human life either, and even ending human civilization (as in, agriculture and organized society) is off by many orders of magnitude.

Nuclear war would be horrible, but the actual impact got massively overinflated, largely because of good reasons.

Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by brucethemoose2 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @09:35PM (#35366594)
The initial fission stage is the "hard" part of a nuke, but the subsequent fusion stages are much easier to scale up. Arbitrarily large nuclear bombs are theoretically "easy" to make by chaining increasingly large fusion stages one after the other, as they aren't limited by expensive fissile material.

https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2012/09/12/in-search-of-a-bi...

Hence scientists extrapolated nukes really could end life on Earth, and in a slightly different reality than ours, they may have.

Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by roywiggins on Thursday March 30, 2023 @12:02AM (#35367779)
It would be really, really hard to kill the bacteria and Archaeans that we've since found hiding deep underground. They're long way down and would barely notice.
Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by namaria on Thursday March 30, 2023 @02:55AM (#35369035)
A whole country the size of the US can crap its collective pants with a freak cold snap and you think 10^4 nuclear detonations destroying all major cities is quite survivable?
Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by edgyquant on Thursday March 30, 2023 @11:39AM (#35374452)
Destruction of major cities != all life on earth
Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by namaria on Thursday March 30, 2023 @11:53AM (#35374688)
I'm glad you took logic in college. Shoulda followed up with ecology.
Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by edgyquant on Thursday March 30, 2023 @12:36PM (#35375407)
I’m sorry you think Covid proves anything about nuclear war or that it’s at all relevant to a discussion about life on earth being eradicated.
Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by namaria on Thursday March 30, 2023 @01:20PM (#35376115)
I have no idea how you got to covid
Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by edgyquant on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:50AM (#35388933)
Fuck off
Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by namaria on Friday March 31, 2023 @03:28PM (#35392194)
You butted into the conversation pal
Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by codeulike on Thursday March 30, 2023 @06:06AM (#35370370)
What about Nuclear Winter?
Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by edgyquant on Thursday March 30, 2023 @11:39AM (#35374467)
There’s been a ton of studies stating this was likely overblown in the early Cold War for propaganda purposes. It wouldn’t last long enough to wipe out humanity let alone all life.
Re:Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut It ... by Darmani on Thursday March 30, 2023 @04:45PM (#35378607)
Correct.

https://www.navalgazing.net/Nuclear-Weapon-Destructiveness

> To put this another way, each bomb can destroy an area of 34.2 square miles, and the maximum total area destroyed by our nuclear apocalypse is about 137,000 square miles, approximately the size of Montana, Bangladesh or Greece.

(I think that should be Bangladesh and Greece; Montana is larger than the two of them combined.)