Senate Bill to Ban TikTok

Re:Senate Bill to Ban TikTok by yed on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @04:56PM (#35363492)

I've read the bill and while I'm not a fan for more general reasons, it doesn't say anything like this at all. The bill is strictly about foreigners from designated US "adversaries" having an ownership stake in large technology companies operating in the US. The text cherry picked in some of these news articles is just a list of the types of technology companies the bill specifies should be the prioritized when evaluating which foreign owned companies should be scrutinized.

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Re:Senate Bill to Ban TikTok by akerl_ on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @04:59PM (#35363535)

The bill doesn’t require an ownership stake, it even includes provisions to consider an entity hostile if the holding is indirect.

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Re:Senate Bill to Ban TikTok by yed on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @05:10PM (#35363707)

The intent there is to deal with people trying to get around the provision via intermediary holding companies. At its core there still must be some ownership stake or controlling interest by a foreign national, whether direct or indirect.

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Re:Senate Bill to Ban TikTok by akerl_ on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @06:06PM (#35364488)

The bill doesn’t seem to require that an interest be controlling, nor define any boundaries on what counts as indirect stakes

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Re:Senate Bill to Ban TikTok by illumin8 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @11:27PM (#35367532)

The problem is the bill creates a new secretary's office reporting directly to the president. This secretary is unaccountable to any voters and can designate any party as an adversary. Sure, it starts with only PRC, Iran, DPRK, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, etc, the typical "baddies" but the secretary can change the list to include any entity, foreign or domestic, at any time.

Then they can fine $250K and up to 20 years in jail if a US person attempts to access banned content. If a US person uses a VPN to try to circumvent this ban the fine increases to $1M.

It also enables them to use all devices on your private network, including routers, wifi APs, webcams, video cameras, smart speakers, etc, to spy on US citizens and persons without any warrant and no recourse for people that are spied on. They can spy on you and surveil your entire digital and physical life and you cannot do anything about it.

This is basically the PATRIOT act for the Internet. It makes it so this new, unaccountable government agency, who meets in secret and is not subject to FOIA, can ban any website, content, or entity they want online, then spy on and jail US persons who might try to access it.

It's pure evil and puts us in the same place that China is today.

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