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Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by starkd on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @09:38AM (#35357107)
>> just for the joy of eating something that tastes nice

That is an example of assuming the worst about someone else with whom you disagree. Taste is not a minor factor. It is a major part of life. Life rituals, commmunity are built around it. It gives life much of its diversity.

Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by 9dev on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @09:46AM (#35357212)
The animals robbed of their life entirely for that major part of yours would like to have a word with you. It's not like meat is the only thing tasty or joyful in life.
Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by xdennis on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @11:21AM (#35358563)
Food is tasty and no amount of your religious preaching is going to change that.
Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by 9dev on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @11:52AM (#35359013)
No, I know that. A steak is one of the most delicious things I've ever eaten, for sure.

But I still have self control, I don't have do do anything that feels good. I just don't want something sentient to die for my dinner, that's all it is.

Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by mrguyorama on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @01:42PM (#35360600)
Then you do you. I am not convinced that an animal killed for food is morally wrong, and I will continue to eat some meat, in moderation, and enjoy when people in my family hunt and fish and eat the things they get. I don't think we have to treat animals as equals to people.

That is all completely tangential to this atrocious law from an actually fascist government however. Banning animal-less meat is stupid, backwards, does nothing to protect the meat industry, and they shouldn't be artificially protected anyway. If animal-free meat companies can sell me a tasty steak for slightly cheaper then I will 100% purchase it and enjoy it, but I will likely still not be in favor of banning animal farming.

Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by 9dev on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:07AM (#35370855)
> and enjoy when people in my family hunt and fish and eat the things they get.

There is a huge difference between going out and killing something yourself, and shredding millions of chiclets a day for chicken nuggets thrown away half eaten. But that's how the majority of people get their meat.

I'm with you on the second paragraph, though.

Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by 3np on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @02:39PM (#35361382)
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Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by PM_me_your_math on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @03:05PM (#35361739)
Rape feels good for the victim? I was always under the impression that rape is a horrible, terrible, painful, and humiliating atrocity. I've never been a democrat, so maybe that's why I don't have a favorable view of rape and think is feels good for the victim.
Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by 3np on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @03:36PM (#35362172)
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Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by fennecfoxy on Thursday March 30, 2023 @06:33AM (#35370586)
This is incredibly counterintuitive as really what you mean is "rape feels good to a rapist". That's the important part. I feel like the majority of people, if held at gunpoint and forced to rape somebody, would not be comfortable, they would not enjoy it and it would be a scarring, traumatic experience.
Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by 9dev on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:02AM (#35370808)
What is counterintuitive in OPs statement if we're talking about eating meat?

> Rape feels good and no amount of preaching is changing that. Has similarly been part of human culture for time immemorial.

> [Meat] is tasty and no amount of your religious preaching is going to change that.

There is no ambiguity here? A rapist doesn't regard the feelings of their victims. Someone who eats an animal doesn't regard the feelings of that animal. In both cases, it's clear who enjoys that situation and who suffers for it.