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Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by thanatropism on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @07:59AM (#35355873)
Unpopular opinion: some controversial cultural heritages need protection. I single out tauromachy, which is incomprehensible to most, moreso the younger generations. The world is a tangle of Chesterton fences, and our righteous moral clariy is our own's worst enemy.
Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by dTal on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @08:11AM (#35356011)
You're going to need to provide some justification for your unpopular opinion.
Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by 9dev on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @08:12AM (#35356020)
I wonder whether you’d say if tauromachy was about killing cute animals, or even humans.

For the life of me, I cannot understand what is there to protect about killing other living beings for joy or taste.

Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by fnmron on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @08:17AM (#35356108)
We kill millions of babys for joy or taste

A bull per month in a cultural ceremony feels like the least of the problems

Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by 9dev on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @08:25AM (#35356206)
Just because one thing is more bad doesn’t make the other good. We can both stop killing bulls for fun and take care of other issues too.
Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by fnmron on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @08:37AM (#35356338)
There's many adjacent practices to bull fighting that are legal.

So for consistency sake we will need to look into farming, we will need to look into carnivorous animals, we will need to look into supplying air conditioning to animals in a hot day for the sake of their welfare

Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by thanatropism on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @09:45AM (#35357201)
Tauromachy isn't "bullfighting". It's circus and drama; it's adjacent to religious sacrifice (rather, than, as some seem to think, betting on dogfights). But it's not religion either.

Animals have to die. The bulls in tauromachy are of a special type that's bred out in the open; they live lives that no other bovine lives -- not even in India, where sacred cows are still beasts of burden.

There's a kind of carefree righteous kind of person that reacts at events rather than systems. So they're agitated by the bloodshed of bulls or tiktoks of cobalt mining in Africa agitates them, and this makes them good people. Isn't it good to be a good person?

Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by 9dev on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @10:41AM (#35357984)
I don't quite know where you're going with this. Are you saying killing those bulls is okay if it's for circus and drama, and those bulls live a few nice years before being hunted through the streets and stabbed to death, because animals die all the time anyway?

There's a kind of carefree righteous kind of person that thinks they are reacting at events rather than systems. So they're agitated by other perspectives than their own, because they alone can see how the world works, and this automatically makes them good people. Isn't it good to be a good person?

Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by meghan_rain on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @08:09AM (#35355977)
> The world is a tangle of Chesterton fences, and our righteous moral clariy is our own's worst enemy.

Intersting take.

Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by 000ooo000 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @08:10AM (#35355989)
Protection from what? A majority forming around updated views on what's acceptable? Laughable
Re:Italy moves to ban lab-grown meat to protect food heritage by causality0 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @08:13AM (#35356041)
Why do they need protection? What's the difference between one morally repugnant cultural heritage like bullfighting and another morally repugnant cultural heritage like dog fighting or cockfighting? How about footbinding? Eating sea turtles? Female circumcision?

Doing something shitty for a long time doesn't affect how bad it is, just how hard it will be to stop.