GMO banning is another example of protectionism masquerading as something else. The demonization of Monsanto is diagnostic of the derangement/dishonesty.

I'm not in favor of banning GMOs, incidentally. The part of the-company-formerly-known-as-Monsanto I take issue with is their predatory practices, like suing farmers for inadvertently cross-pollinating their crops from Monsanto-copyrighted seeds from a neighboring farmer's fields.

You're being a useful fool here, repeating that outright lie, which has been well debunked even here on HN. The scoundrels committing this blood libel against Monsanto and GMOs count on people like you to propagate their poison.

> The scoundrels committing this blood libel against Monsanto and GMOs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

Ahem. Dafuq?

"Blood libel?" What in the actual f**?

Well, if you're going to be antisemitic, then we're done here. Maybe consider getting some help.

I'm being the opposite of antisemitic.

Comparing people being fooled by propaganda to "Blood libel" is atrocious and just as stupid, hollow, and heartless as the american conservatives who said not being able to get a haircut during the pandemic was comparable to the holocaust.

Get a fucking break man. You can educate people that GMOs aren't on their own a danger and that there is a lot of misinformation about these things without being a miserable asshole.

It's two groups of people fooled into demonization for political purposes. And in each case, there is significant harm as a result. I will grant the Holocaust was likely a larger harm, but don't dismiss the harm caused by GMO negativity (which is inextricably bound to Monsanto demonization). Golden Rice blockage alone is arguably an act of genocide.

Monsanto is very aggressive to the environment, the farmers, food heritage and common decency. This twisting of reason and aggression you commit is a serious farce. "Blood libel" WTF??

Monsanto is subject to outrageous politicized libel of the sort you parrot there. For example, your "to the farmers" there is likely a repeat of the brazen lie that they sue farmers for inadvertent GMO contamination.

Their RoundupReady crops seem to have another poison hidden inside them (literally!)

The Roundup pesticide that those crops are sprayed with is made of Glyphosate, and testers keep finding that pesticide showing up inside corn, wheat, and oat products. Seems like those crops don't just ignore the pesticide, they actually absorb it into their grains https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/glyphosate-contaminat...

Being against Monsanto != being against GMOs.

It's a tactic of enormous dishonesty used by opponents of GMOs.

Conflating the two? Maybe. But here on HN you must assume people understand the difference: that Monsanto is dodgy as a company, but this doesn't generalize to GMOs as a technology.

It's commonly asserted that Monsanto is dodgy as a company. I'm telling you this is a deliberately crafted and propagated deception, used as a weapon against GMOs. It's not something that can be separated.

How can it be a weapon against GMOs if the criticism of Monsanto is about their business practices?

It's as if you'd never heard of ad hominem arguments. They can be highly effective in the rough and tumble of politicized conflict. If Monsanto tried to defend itself on its merits, all its arguments could be dismissed by saying they're bad and you can't trust anything they say.

GMOs are awesome but monsanto is still a garbage company, just for literally everything else they do that isn't food and plant science.

I also think patents on plants and seeds are morally wrong and unjustified so that is an input to my opinion.

Can you give some examples of what Monsanto does that makes it such a "shit company"?

I totally reject your opinion on plant/seed patents. They're necessary to have GMOs at all in a market economy, and GMOs have tremendous potential for positive contribution to our society.