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Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by 908B64B197 on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @05:21PM (#35348066)
Lots of places don't have strong constitutional protections, for anything.

Not that long ago, the government in Canada started freezing citizen's bank accounts on suspicions they donated small amounts to a certain peaceful organization organizing protests the government didn't like. They just decided to suspend the constitution (because that's a thing over there?).

But what's interesting to see is people from Europe and Commonwealth nations voting with their feet and deciding that they too want more constitutional protections (which they are entitled to!). Here in the Bay it seems there's a constant interest from EU nationals to move to America (judging by the volume of applications we get). But I've never heard anyone interested to do the reverse.

Top destination for EU nationals in Academia was... right here in the US [0].

Interesting to speculate what impact the policies imposed by these non-elected EU bureaucrats will have on this demographic. More brain drain? Is it the intended goal?

[0] http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/tech-careers/the-global-bra...

Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by transcriptase on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @07:10PM (#35349387)
Careful, if any HN folk reside in Ottawa they’ll be all over you implying that honking horns is psychological torture and that everything is the fault of the RCMP and Provincial government for not shutting down protests first.
Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by labster on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @08:51PM (#35350482)
Hey, post your street address online here. Me and some buddies will camp outside your house honking horns all night long for a month or two, all in completely harmless good fun as we all agree it’s simply free speech.
Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by unconed on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @05:35AM (#35354710)
Did they honk horns at night? I seem to recall explicit calls to not do that.
Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by sangnoir on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @12:10AM (#35352401)
Sleep deprivation is recognized as torture everywhere.
Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by robopsychology on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @06:03PM (#35348602)
The UK doesn't even have a constitution

Also, as a European living in the Bay, part of it is for the higher salaries. If I can take my Bay rate and bring it back to Europe I'm going to do that.

Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by dragonwriter on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @06:14PM (#35348747)
> The UK doesn't even have a constitution

It doesn't have a single written document titled “the Constitution”; but it has a constitution.

Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by gweinberg on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @06:10PM (#35348687)
Yes it does. It doesn't have a Constitution, but that's not the same thing as not having a constitution.
Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by robopsychology on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @06:17PM (#35348771)
Okay to put it another way the constitution is uncodified and weak - parliament can change constitutional laws at a whim due to no separation of powers and no-one could sit down and write it out anyway. So it's a pretty weird constitution if you can call it that, and many legal scholars argue it isn't one.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/764688

Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by hgsgm on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @09:57PM (#35351125)
$51 is an expensive citation.
Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by somenameforme on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @01:09AM (#35352894)
Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by int_19h on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @07:05PM (#35365163)
UK operates on the notion of parliamentary supremacy, which makes any constitution, formal or informal, largely meaningless, since the Parliament can always override anything in it with simple majority vote:

"It is often said that it would be unconstitutional for the United Kingdom Parliament to do certain things, meaning that the moral, political and other reasons against doing them are so strong that most people would regard it as highly improper if Parliament did these things. But that does not mean that it is beyond the power of Parliament to do such things. If Parliament chose to do any of them, the courts would not hold the Act of Parliament invalid."

Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by leoedin on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @05:26PM (#35348129)
I hate to break it to you, but there's plenty of Americans living all over Europe. Here in London there's loads.
Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by mdekkers on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @02:16AM (#35353312)
> Here in the Bay it seems there's a constant interest from EU nationals to move to America (judging by the volume of applications we get). But I've never heard anyone interested to do the reverse.

Plenty of Americans do just that, a friend of mine got his USA certificate of un-citizenship last week

Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by desas on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @05:27PM (#35348147)
Maybe people are voting with their feet for constitutional protections. Maybe it's because the USA is significantly richer and pays more, there's likely to be a whole range of reasons.

I work with several US nationals who have relocated to the EU.

Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by CamelCaseName on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @06:25PM (#35348853)
"peaceful" is absolutely not the word I'd use for 18-wheeler trucks blaring their horns around the clock in a city center.
Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by MrPatan on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @06:34PM (#35348975)
Of course not, "peaceful" is reserved for burning buildings and cars.
Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by labster on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @09:00PM (#35350564)
I remember the good old days when people could be against riots regardless of their politics without getting canceled. But those days are long gone.

I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m pro-BLM. I’m not a racist or anything.

Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by hgsgm on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @10:00PM (#35351157)
I remember the good old days when you could be pro-riots and still agree that the behavior was illegal, because "burning the system down" was a position taken with honesty.

When US "peacekeepers" invade a foreign country, that's illegal too.

Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by labster on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @11:14PM (#35351851)
Nah, that’s just enhanced liberation techniques.
Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by hgsgm on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @09:56PM (#35351107)
> certain peaceful organization organizing protests the government didn't like.

When you go beyond defending behavior, to go out of your way to avoid saying what you are talking about, you discredit yourself.

Re:EU Commission Doesn't Understand What's Written in Its Ow... by int_19h on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @07:07PM (#35365186)
Canada has a clause in its Charter of Rights and Freedoms that literally allows the legislature of any province to pass laws in direct contradiction to most of the Charter - specifically, the sections on fundamental rights. They just have to explicitly point out which parts of the Charter they found inconvenient when invoking this clause. Quebec is notorious for abusing this power (mostly for its language laws), but other provinces have also found it useful on occasion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_33_of_the_Canadian_Cha...