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Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by otikik on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:05PM (#35347049)
Each one of those ads is a free ad for Apple and Linux. “If you had Apple, you wouldn’t have to endure this!”
Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by smnrchrds on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:15PM (#35347170)
I wish Apple was actually good in that regard. I ended up uninstalled Apple Stocks app from my Mac and iPhone because of all the terrible ads. The ads I was were even worse than this:

https://images.app.goo.gl/dVbDoBuScVzp3uAg9

Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by latsnoopy on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:17PM (#35347208)
wtf, i have never seen any add in ios including stock app
Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by pivo on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:30PM (#35347381)
I think that's in the Apple News "Business News" section at the bottom. I'd never noticed it before myself.
Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by MikusR on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @02:25AM (#35353363)
You never looked in settings?
Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by tpmx on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:53PM (#35347667)
What the actual f? Good thing I don't live in a very high ARPU area. That insulates you from a surprising amount of crazy stuff. I mean, just not living in US/UK will get you quite far.
Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by YawningAngel on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @05:03PM (#35347796)
If the worst problem you have is ads in your stocks app, it sounds like Apple is still coming out way ahead. I agree that they're squandering brand value for what must be a very marginal gain though
Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by smnrchrds on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @05:42PM (#35348346)
> it sounds like Apple is still coming out way ahead

I disagree for three reasons:

1. Apple Ads are incessant about their own services. Why is (or was?) not having iCloud set up showing up as a permanent notification badge over Settings? It was a while ago, but I remember I subscribed just to shut iOS up. It worked for Apple I guess, but only in a shortsighted way.

2. Ads are big business. Microsoft didn't start with shameless ads, and I don't think Apple would stop at current ad levels. They have to show growth quarter after quarter, so in all likelihood, like we have seen with other companies, it's only gonna get worse. I would love to be proven wrong, but I would also be surprised if I do.

3. The gap between "no ad" and "low ad" feels much bigger the gap between "low ad" and "more ad". Just replace Apple and Microsoft with Netflix and imagine how we would feel if Netflix started showing some—not too many and not too outrageous—ads. For me at least, it moves the service from the "no ad" category to the "with ad" category, and I hate the latter category. So at least in my view, the gap between Apple and Microsoft in this regard is not "way ahead", it is "slightly ahead and getting closer". So while I would be happy to spend an extra X$ for a "no ad" product compared to a "with ad" product, I wouldn't feel the same about a "low ad" product. The Apple premium makes much less sense now, and I am not sure if I am gonna go with Apple for my next phone or computer purchase.

Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by at-fates-hands on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:15PM (#35347173)
I saw this coming a few months ago and had the same reaction.

I was already in the market for a new PC. I'm just finalizing what version of Linux I want to run for my dev work and then I'm going to offload my Adobe work onto a Mac Mini and finally get rid of Windows once and for all.

Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by reaperducer on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:51PM (#35347634)
Each one of those ads is a free ad for Apple and Linux. “If you had Apple, you wouldn’t have to endure this!”

In an ideal world, it would push people toward real life.

"Another ad on my computer? I don't need to Candy Crush that bad. I'll go outside."

Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by falcolas on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @07:50PM (#35349838)
Outside is boring and, compared to pc gaming, expensive. You have to drive to get anywhere interesting (expensive), there are parking and entrance and camping fees, tourists, and the view is mostly the same as the last twelve times.

Sports leagues are expensive, time consuming, and prone to serious injuries you’ll be feeling for decades (and expensive too).

And then there’s the short and long term costs associated with long term exposure to the sun.

Granted, I’m cherry picking negatives. But by that same token, so is equivocating PC gaming with Candy Crush.

No regrets.

Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by midoridensha on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @12:30AM (#35352595)
>You have to drive to get anywhere interesting (expensive)

Only in America. Thankfully, 95% of the world's population lives somewhere else.

Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by withinboredom on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @02:02AM (#35353228)
I was about the say the same. Moved out of the US five years ago. I can hop on bike and be at a national forest in 10 minutes, taking nothing but dedicated bike roads.
Re:Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start ... by reaperducer on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:53PM (#35390628)
Outside is boring and, compared to pc gaming, expensive

I feel very sad for you.