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Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by pphysch on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @02:04PM (#35345277)
The five stages of grief.

There is an enormous anti-Washington bloc. So what, it isn't perfectly encapsulated in a single organization yet. That's natural due to its rapid growth.

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by peppermint_gum on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @02:10PM (#35345371)
>The five stages of grief.

You're right but not in the way you think. Russia is desperate to prove they aren't isolated internationally.

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by cpursley on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @02:38PM (#35345819)
And they're proving it. The Western block is around a billion people. There are nearly 8 billion people on the planet now.

You can buy fresh Mexican advocates from any grocery chain anywhere in Russia (the logistics behind that are not trivial). As can you Japanese whiskey, Korean appliances, Chinese cars and a whole other host of products that Soviet citizens could have never dreamed of.

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by selimthegrim on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @02:55PM (#35346061)
Oh good maybe they can finally use some of their boondoggle nuclear cargo ships too
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by xtian on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:39PM (#35347478)
It’s comical to call cargo ships a boondoggle when the US can currently produce no more than ten per year (of the non-nuclear variety).
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by cpursley on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @05:32PM (#35348214)
Seriously. And Canada is having real problems right now due to lack of adequate icebreakers.
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by ImPostingOnHN on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:02PM (#35346990)
in the UN votes condemning russian aggression and condemning russian annexations, russia received the support of fewer than 3% of countries in the world, representing less than 3% of people in the world, including themselves

seems they failed to prove they aren't isolated

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by cpursley on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @12:41PM (#35359758)
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by unmole on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @02:29PM (#35345689)
> Russia is desperate to prove they aren't isolated internationally.

BRICS make up 40% of the world's population.

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by ImPostingOnHN on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:03PM (#35347020)
how much is made up by the R?

grouping the R in with the BICS doesn't seem appropriate anymore

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by unmole on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @02:13AM (#35353295)
~140 million or less than 5%.
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by pphysch on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:19PM (#35346396)
And they have, particularly when overwhelming Western sanctions failed to shock the Russian economy and society to collapse.

Remember when Biden triumphantly announced that the ruble was reduced to "rubble"? That was the objective, and it failed catastrophically.

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by Tagbert on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:33PM (#35346585)
So, how is that Russian economy doing now? From sources not controlled by the Kremlin?
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by somenameforme on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:51PM (#35346848)
Russia expected (September 2022) [1]:

2022: -2.9% decline

2023: hoping for slight growth, possibility of slight decline

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IMF observed/predicts (January 2023) [2]:

2022: -2.2% decline

2023: slight growth

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[1] - https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-economy-contr...

[2] - https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/RUS

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by cpursley on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @05:44PM (#35348357)
Try YouTube. Plenty of Westerners there posting videos of daily life.
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by refulgentis on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @02:09PM (#35345343)
Motte and Bailey. This is just vibes
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by pphysch on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:11PM (#35346287)
Definitely. The geopolitical environment is very stable and Washington is firmly in control of the unipolar world order. The global USD is thriving.

Stage 1: Denial.

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by refulgentis on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:25PM (#35347307)
You should probably look at charts of things people talk about to you
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by pphysch on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @05:25PM (#35348118)
What?
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by onepointsixC on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @02:53PM (#35346034)
India being characterized as a member of an Anti Western bloc seems rather far fetched considering their partnership with Washington, against another member of that block (China).
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by pphysch on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:24PM (#35346464)
You just have to look at how initiatives like "the Quad" have failed completely.
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by ashwagary on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:45PM (#35346763)
>India being characterized as a member of an Anti Western bloc

Binary thinkers forget there are 3 states, with us, against us, and independent.

BRICS countries aren't anti anyone, they are just asserting their independence in a world where Western countries have historically been hostile to that position.

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by onepointsixC on Thursday March 30, 2023 @04:45PM (#35378611)
I was responding to the OP who was claiming that "There is an enormous anti-Washington bloc" in reference to BRICS.

Non aligned movement has existed for a long time, but in the context here India is not completely non aligned. They have been the target of aggression by China which has resulted in the deaths of Indian soldiers. And the US has supported them against this aggression[1].

[1]: https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2023-03-20...

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by Zigurd on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:00PM (#35346139)
By "bloc" do you mean allies who would actually commit military forces to a war? Tributary puppet states like the Soviet Bloc?

Russia's list of allies:

1. Belarus (maybe, on a good day)

China's list of allies:

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by pphysch on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:12PM (#35346298)
The anti-Western bloc is not interested in escalating war, so it is inaccurate to view it through the lens of formal military alliance.

Countries that want war right now: USA, Israel, Ukraine, Russia, Poland, Azerbaijan, few others.

Countries that don't want war: >90% of human population.

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by Zigurd on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:34PM (#35346594)
I am delighted to hear China is not belicose. Spread the word. Seems like not many people know this.
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by analognoise on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:16PM (#35347182)
All these fun little man-made island resorts with a full landing strip and a complement of fighter-bombers and medium range missiles, just for protection - they're just for tourism!

Who knew?

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by pphysch on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @05:23PM (#35348089)
Why did China have to put its country in the middle of all those American overseas military bases? Such aggression!
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by ImPostingOnHN on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:06PM (#35347058)
a little over a year ago, russia literally escalated their 2014 war in Ukraine, seems russia wants war the most, having both started and escalated this one
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by jemmyw on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:47PM (#35347591)
Ukraine and Poland definitely don't want war right now, they'd very much just like the Russians to stop and leave.

The position of the countries that want "peace" is bizarre in the media: "you should just stop fighting the invader and then it's no longer war. You don't want war do you?"

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by pphysch on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @05:25PM (#35348109)
They don't want war, yet they also don't want to make any concessions or de-escalations. So they get more war.
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by jemmyw on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @09:13PM (#35350687)
Not sure you can blame them can you? If they concede territory that's just a message of "invade later for more". It's also pretty hard to give concessions when the rhetoric of your opponent doesn't make any sense. Effectively Russia doesn't want Ukraine to be Ukraine one way or another.
Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by rayiner on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @05:37PM (#35348265)
> The position of the countries that want "peace" is bizarre in the media: "you should just stop fighting the invader and then it's no longer war. You don't want war do you?"

It’s not “bizarre” just calculated. Most of the world doesn’t give a shit about Ukraine and would be perfectly happy for Russia to annex it so long as the economic disruption from the sanctions and oil price increases stop. They can’t outright say it because western countries are big trade partners but that’s what they mean reading between the lines.

Re:The BRICS Has Overtaken the G7 in Global GDP by onepointsixC on Thursday March 30, 2023 @04:49PM (#35378647)
Perhaps you should got to Beijing and correct Xi Jingping then[1].

[1]: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/xi-jinping-says...