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Re:Employees Are Feeding Sensitive Biz Data to ChatGPT, Rais... by philsquared_ on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:20PM (#35331903)
Google takes your data and sells it. Literally making your data available to the highest bidder. Is OpenAI doing that? If Google existed in its current form during the early internet it would be classified in the same category as Bonzai Buddy. Spyware. That is what Google is. So I can very reasonably understand why people would trust OpenAI with data they wouldn't trust Google with. OpenAI hasn't spit in the face of its users yet.
Re:Employees Are Feeding Sensitive Biz Data to ChatGPT, Rais... by dragonwriter on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:41PM (#35332223)
> Google takes your data and sells it. Literally making your data available to the highest bidder.

No, Google takes money to present ads to people of different demographics, and uses your data to do that. It doesn’t sell your data, which is, in fact their competitive edge in ads – selling your data would be selling the cow when they’d prefer to sell the milk.

Re:Employees Are Feeding Sensitive Biz Data to ChatGPT, Rais... by SketchySeaBeast on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:34PM (#35332126)
> Google takes your data and sells it. Literally making your data available to the highest bidder.

But it doesn't, does it? It sells the fact that it knows everything about everyone and can get the ad to the perfect people for it. It's not going on the open market and telling people I regularly buy 12 lbs of marshmallow fluff and then use it in videos I keep on my google drive.

Re:Employees Are Feeding Sensitive Biz Data to ChatGPT, Rais... by jankeymeulen on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:30PM (#35332046)
Not really. Even the most evil Google one can imagine would realise "your data" is the most valuable thing they possess, selling it would be bad for business. They're selling ads to the highest bidder who's looking for someone with a profile based on your data, but not your data itself.
Re:Employees Are Feeding Sensitive Biz Data to ChatGPT, Rais... by JohnFen on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:31PM (#35332062)
True, but that's not actually any better. And it still counts as selling your data, just indirectly.
Re:Employees Are Feeding Sensitive Biz Data to ChatGPT, Rais... by nl on Monday March 27, 2023 @09:17PM (#35334549)
It's completely different in ways that matter to me.
Re:Employees Are Feeding Sensitive Biz Data to ChatGPT, Rais... by JohnFen on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:30PM (#35332047)
> I can very reasonably understand why people would trust OpenAI with data they wouldn't trust Google with. OpenAI hasn't spit in the face of its users yet.

In other words, having been burnt once by touching a flame, the conclusion these people draw is that the problem was with that particular flame and they're fine with reaching for a different one?

Re:Employees Are Feeding Sensitive Biz Data to ChatGPT, Rais... by noncoml on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:23PM (#35331947)
> Google takes your data and sells it. Literally making your data available to the highest bidder.

Even if they are not doing it now(?), what makes you think that they will not do so in the future? It's not like your data has an expiration date.

Re:Employees Are Feeding Sensitive Biz Data to ChatGPT, Rais... by philsquared_ on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:27PM (#35332007)
Because they are completely different business models. If OpenAI decides to become an advertising behemoth then I would show concern. Right now they use your data for training (when they use it).
Re:Employees Are Feeding Sensitive Biz Data to ChatGPT, Rais... by JohnFen on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:33PM (#35332102)
OpenAI has already demonstrated that they're all in for maximizing profit. They may not be advertisers, but advertisers aren't the only sorts of companies that make bank by selling personal data.

I see no reason to think OpenAI would leave that money on the table.

Re:Employees Are Feeding Sensitive Biz Data to ChatGPT, Rais... by Jensson on Monday March 27, 2023 @05:45PM (#35333124)
OpenAI is selling others data in their model responses. Selling others data is their main business model.

If it uses user data to train their models other users could ask "Show me the code for gmail spam filters", and if it was trained on engineers refactoring that spam filter in ChatGPT chances are it would give you the code. If that doesn't count as "selling user data" I don't know what is. They not only sell it, they nicely package and rewrite it to make it easy to avoid copyright claims!