Re:Why a European mobile operating system can’t challenge An...
by mid-kid on Monday March 27, 2023 @09:30AM
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The even funnier thing is, Gmail supports standard mail protocols, and can be interacted with using just about any mail client, and Twitter has a billion custom clients for it as well. The problem is that Google is hiding the SMTP/IMAP options deep behind needing a 2fa and "app passwords", and all the others are actively rejecting or working against letting people create custom apps for the services easily.
There's no need for any of these companies to create any new software for any new OS, they choose to prevent people from doing so, and that's actively harmful in the current walled garden of an ecosystem we've created.
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Re:Why a European mobile operating system can’t challenge An...
by WirelessGigabit on Monday March 27, 2023 @10:49AM
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No one wants to do POP3 in 2023. And Gmails IMAP set up is weird. A labeling system being represented as folders is not a great experience.
Re:Why a European mobile operating system can’t challenge An...
by ghusto on Monday March 27, 2023 @12:11PM
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I've been using IMAP for Gmail since forever, and it's ... fine? I don't know what you find weird about it?
Re:Why a European mobile operating system can’t challenge An...
by WirelessGigabit on Monday March 27, 2023 @12:17PM
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If you put 2 labels on an email, then it is represented twice over IMAP.
IMAP is folder based, not label based.
And what this means is that if you remove an email from a folder, you don't actually remove it completely, you just remove the label, and the email continues to exist elsewhere.
(I might be wrong about this behavior: the behavior of deleting an email over IMAP depends on whether it has labels left or not).
Update: good read about how the system doesn't behave like you think it does
Re:Why a European mobile operating system can’t challenge An...
by ghusto on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @07:00AM
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Yeah I was aware they're doing some black-box stuff to make it work, but wasn't too fussed as long as it did.
I have the issue you describe with ProtonMail's labelling, but not Gmail's.