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Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by notahacker on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:58AM (#35324440)
We've already had some experiments about "what if we select politicians based on their love for being on TV and their lack of concern about concealing their corruption" and the results aren't good...
Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by ben_w on Monday March 27, 2023 @05:43AM (#35324681)
Public figures kinda need to be narcissistic just to be able to face seeing themselves so much each day. And that includes the good ones.

I'm more worried about the fact that humans are, collectively at least, so hypocritical.

For the following examples, bare in mind that neither I nor the general public understand the actual laws, so any nits you pick need to be the kind that even a non-lawyer will accept:

I'm old enough to remember Clinton being impeached for lying about his affairs, and yet Republicans (collectively) are defending Trump for lying about affairs.

Or vice versa, Trump's classified documents at home vs. Biden's.

Probably the same elsewhere, but I don't trust that I'm not part of the problem with regard to UK politics (where I'm from), and my German isn't good enough to pay attention to what's happening where I now live.

Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by dsfyu404ed on Monday March 27, 2023 @09:11AM (#35326244)
>I'm more worried about the fact that humans are, collectively at least, so hypocritical.

Humans are violent too. If we tried as hard to train it out of people we'd make good progress.

Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by omniglottal on Monday March 27, 2023 @11:26AM (#35327935)
Violence serves a purpose - although it doesn't serve this purppose well, it stands in place as a last resort. Removing that resort, what do you propose replaces it for the purposes which must be served?
Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @06:07AM (#35338260)
I meant that we could train out hypocrisy the same way we train out most of the violence.
Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by bregma on Monday March 27, 2023 @06:31AM (#35324943)
For example, how many showers a day can a person take and "forget" to get dressed?
Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by rs999gti on Monday March 27, 2023 @12:08PM (#35328441)
> and "forget" to get dressed?

The old Ted Kennedy maneuver

Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by headsoup on Monday March 27, 2023 @08:36AM (#35325874)
You mean Zelensky?
Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by BurningFrog on Monday March 27, 2023 @09:46AM (#35326625)
If you mean Trump, a lot of people think the results were great.
Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by lib-dev on Monday March 27, 2023 @10:02AM (#35326776)
A lot of people are brainwashed.
Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by Clubber on Monday March 27, 2023 @10:55AM (#35327492)
>A lot of people are brainwashed.

On both sides. It's all theater like WWE. You have the good guy and you have the heel. Each side has their own story with this format.

Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by Aunche on Monday March 27, 2023 @10:00AM (#35326765)
Much earlier than Trump, politicians discovered that they could further advance their own interests by virtue signaling during Congressional sessions instead of actually make progress on legislation. Now, all meaningful negotiation happens behinds closed doors. If that also gets broadcast, then I'd be surprised if they get anything done at all.
Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by JumpCrisscross on Monday March 27, 2023 @10:26AM (#35327059)
> now, all meaningful negotiation happens behinds closed doors

This is fundamental to loss aversion and compromise. There was never a "before." Open "negotiations" reward posturing, not compromise.