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Re:The rise and rise of e-sports by RajT88 on Monday March 27, 2023 @01:08AM (#35323056)
Perhaps in the west we can connect the rise of e-Sports with a near future of them as the Next Big Thing.

I have nieces and nephews who loves videogames, but are often not invested enough in one to really master it. These kids spend more time watching youtube videos of other people playing games than actually playing them themselves. I hear it all the time, how mystified parents and grandparents are.

Fast forward 10-15 years. Those kids are adults with a love of the games, with a habit of spectating.

It's no different than football or tennis or hockey.

(Well - it's different than golf, which sucks...)

Re:The rise and rise of e-sports by stocknoob on Monday March 27, 2023 @01:30AM (#35323172)
Yep. And funny enough, when someone over 22 says they like football, they mean they like watching people play football.
Re:The rise and rise of e-sports by dieselgate on Monday March 27, 2023 @01:44AM (#35323266)
Assume we’re talking American football here - it’s a unique sport because you can really only play it legitimately on a team with a lot of equipment and time/resources. So basically if you’re 18 and under (or very talented at playing football).

I played 5 seasons in my life, 4 in high school and it was without a doubt the most fun athletic experience of my entire life. I’ve never really been able to get interested much watching football otherwise because it just isn’t the same. There were a few women on my teams throughout the years (some of the most feminine and badass women I’ve ever met) but it’s unfortunate American football is such a male dominant sport.

It almost seems when people say they like watching football now they mean they like drinking alcohol or playing fantasy.

Idk, always thought it was kind of strange how basically every sport can also be a “pastime” activity but football just turns into a spectator activity after a while.

Edit: not a football quote but makes me think of “people don’t think it be like it is but it do”

Edit2: not a fan of footy/soccer much but really the greatest thing about the sport imo is the simplicity and ability for anyone to play basically whenever wherever and at whatever age. It’s so much more the game of the People as such

Edit3: just rambling here but remember towards the end of last season senior year the coaches said something like “hope you have a lot more better things to look forward to in your life after this, but keep in mind these will be some of the best times of your life”. think about that a lot, and it was never lost on me at the time, but now I’m actually feeling my body age and chit it’s just so true and real. This feels somewhat pathetic to write out haha but really do miss playing football unlike anything else.

Last edit: this is literally the last thing I’d ever of thought to be writing about as a comment on HN

Re:The rise and rise of e-sports by RajT88 on Monday March 27, 2023 @02:08AM (#35323416)
For what I was getting at - doesn't matter if it is soccer or "el futbol Americano". It's all the same point.

But for the record, American Football is fine. It's the lionization of players which is the most problematic.

In the US, that is an issue that exists across many sports in any case, but the most pronounced is Football (wtf is with Americans and sports anyhow?).

Re:The rise and rise of e-sports by defrost on Monday March 27, 2023 @02:04AM (#35323393)
Hell of an assumption, central north american hand egg is largely constrained to its parish north of Mexico | south of Canada in an area that barely cracks 330 million.

By contrast actual football has an estimated global fanbase of some 3.5 billion.

Even in the poorest part of the globe with no equipment of proper fields you'll find young people practicing with 'balls' made from wadded up material bound by tape, playing keepy up with hacky sacks and other odd objects, etc.

(And now I see your edit .. ah, well)

FWiW I grew up with a limited equipment dirt field version of foot egg, aka:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMZYZcoAcU0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_SqfNNfhmM

Re:The rise and rise of e-sports by nickpeterson on Monday March 27, 2023 @09:09PM (#35334476)
Yeah, it’s a sport almost designed for armchair quarterbacks ;)
Re:The rise and rise of e-sports by v_london on Monday March 27, 2023 @06:54PM (#35333947)
I'll be interested to see how the longevity of e-sports pans out. Most games will be woefully outdated after a decade: will the audience move to the next big game, or stay playing the old games? Or will video games eventually plateau to a point where significant technological advancements are no longer made?

This year saw a time where Chess became the top trending app on the App Store. The strength of traditional sports and games is their timelessness - can e-sports ever match that?

Re:The rise and rise of e-sports by duskwuff on Monday March 27, 2023 @07:05PM (#35334067)
> Most games will be woefully outdated after a decade

I don't think the age of a game has much to do with it, especially for games which are receiving ongoing support from the developer.

DotA 2 is 10 years old -- or closer to 20 years if you count the Warcraft 3 map it evolved from -- and still actively played.

CS:GO is 11 years old, and is also an evolution of a Half-Life mod from 2000.

League of Legends is 14 years old.

Re:The rise and rise of e-sports by nickpeterson on Monday March 27, 2023 @09:07PM (#35334462)
abstract strategy games like chess, go, and hex are fun ti play but difficult to watch for the layman. You tend to just be watching people think rather than the game itself unless you’re really well versed in it.

Games like counter strike and StarCraft are still entertaining to watch even if you don’t understand the nuances.