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Re:Fide Women’s Grand Prix Collapses into “Chaos” as Players... by stametseater on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:22PM (#35321784)
Emancipation of women wasn't the reason Afghanistan was invaded. It kind of became a sort of disingenuous revisionist justification somewhere along the line, but the stated justification at the time was the Taliban were harboring al-Qaeda, particularly bin Laden.

The whole of it seems quite farcical to me, particularly in retrospect, but I wouldn't equivocate it with Russia's invasion of Ukraine because I don't think the American government ever intended on annexing Afghanistan territory. It does however resemble the Soviet Union's own invasion of Afghanistan to topple the (then communist) government of Afghanistan. In that case there was also a fig leaf of humanitarianism, since the PDPA, lead by Taraki and Amin, were massacring civilians and generally losing control of the country. Taraki evidently got cold feet and requested a Soviet intervention, but was subsequently assassinated at Amin's order before that occurred. The assassination of Taraki and the PDPA's general inability to stop murdering people served as the Soviet justification for the invasion. Of course the reality of the invasion was not particularly humanitarian, but the same can be said of the American invasion.

Anyway, all of it was and is shameful and none of it excuses the rest of it.

Re:Fide Women’s Grand Prix Collapses into “Chaos” as Players... by EGreg on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:29PM (#35321824)
It's actually worse than that.

The Taliban told the USA: "just provide proof that Osama was behind 9/11", and let's have a court case in a neutral third country. (You know, like they do in The Hague etc.)

USA and Bush admin said: "We know he's guilty. We will give you no proof!"

Then in December of 2001 (that same year!) the Taliban said "we unconditionally surrender! We will disband! All we ask is for you to let us live our lives out in dignity."

The USA said in their great wisdom: "NOPE"

Then we fought for 20 years the very group we ceded Afghanistan to last year. And to think, all we had to do is ACCEPT THEIR UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER and we would have saved trillions. And those girls would have been educated!

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/23/world/middleeast/afghanis...