So, Th would be pronounced like just T. For example, thermo and now culitho.
The noun "termo" in Spanish is formally recognized by the RAE to refer to a vacuum insulated food jar (such as the ones sold by Thermos®), and that is the word I was referring to, as it is the most widely identifiable use of the word "termo" in Spanish.
i.e.: "Pasame ese termo por favor?", "Se me ha quedado el termo en mi casa".
Thanos is "Tanos," Thermos is "termo," Ethernet is "Eternet," and so on.
There is no such thing as "when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T". Which sound are you referring to, the Greek "Θά" ('θa")? Or the English "th" which becomes the voiced dental fricative /ð/ or the voiceless dental fricative /θ/?
Does "ethernet" have a formally recognized translation by the RAE? No, it doesn't. You are being dishonest and making stuff up here.
A formal translation for "Thanos" doesn't exist in Spanish, what does exist is a translation for the given name Ἀθανάσιος ("Thanos" is a shortened version of the given name "Athanasius"), which is translated to Spanish as Atanasio, because it arrived to Spanish from Greek.
Another possible translation of Thanos may be the translations made by Marvel which I cannot care less about and do not carry any weight whatsoever.
And the fact that you are native Spanish speaker makes little difference here. How trustworthy is a native Spanish speaker? You will know it when you navigate the Spanish speaking Internet and find most of it are antivaxxers, flat earthers and people that believe "US Navy" is a given name ("Usnavy"). I know this because I have native Spanish proficiency as well.
Whoa. Even though I'm a Latino, I've never been offended or felt discriminated against while living in the USA these last 20 years. But your comment is something else. It's obvious that you haven't interacted with any Spanish-speaking scientist, programmer, or really anyone that didn't skip high school.
> Does "ethernet" have a formally recognized translation by the RAE? No, it doesn't. You are being dishonest and making stuff up here.
It doesn't, but that doesn't mean you're forbidden from using a word. Every Spanish-speaking IT professional pronounces ethernet as "eternet", although it is written as "ethernet", because we don't have a word for it in Spanish.
I'm mad. Not at you, but at the fact that your cowardly throwaway username hasn't been banned from HN yet.
I am glad that you have not been offended or discriminated on the basis of race, ethnicity or national origin in 20 years. That sounds amazing. The sad part is that it is irrelevant in this context. You could be an elf immigrant living in Mordor and that would have absolutely no relation to this whatsoever.
> But your comment is something else. It's obvious that you haven't interacted with any Spanish-speaking scientist, programmer, or really anyone that didn't skip high school.
The amount of incorrect information in your reply is directly proportional to its word length.
> Every Spanish-speaking IT professional pronounces ethernet as "eternet".
Do not promote your vernacular preferences to authoritative and official information.
> Not at you, but at the fact that your cowardly throwaway username hasn't been banned from HN yet.
I am sorry to inform you that "copperx" is also a pseudonym and that the coward designation you have so eagerly used to refer to me, would also apply to you as well if we follow your logic.
What a weird discussion.
Look up and down the topic, plenty of examples of people sharing contradictory experiences on these questions and referencing the variety of types of Spanish (anywhere from a dozen to dozens, depending how you slice it).
And the comment, even if taken literally with no rhetorical effect intended, was that "most" of the Spanish-speaking internet was garbage. I'd say most of ANY language internet is pretty garbage. You inflated that way out of context then clutched your pearls
That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of how something is pronounced in Spanish, which is ostensibly something that a native speaker of the language would certainly have experience with and who’s opinions should be listened to.
They shouldn’t be trusted as a source of information about vaccinations, the curvature of the earth, or the etymology of the US Navy but it’s also not expected that they would be experts in any of those topics.
There’s also plenty of English (and whatever other language, it’s not like the two are correlated in any way) speaking folks who believe all those things as well, but that doesn’t mean we instantly discount all people who speak English because of that.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=tierra%2...
"tierra plana" translates to "flat earth".
That’s a hilarious escape hatch to try using once you saw how badly people reacted to it. “GUYS it’s ok I was only joking!” Absolutely nothing in your comment came off as being non-serious in tone, and nothing whatsoever in your further responses indicates that was even remotely the case either. Sarcasm doesn’t transfer well over text, but there’s absolutely no way you’re expecting people to buy that.
> The proliferation of flat earth theory (as a movement, in its modern incarnation) and antivaxxers started in the English-speaking Internet.
No shit Sherlock, it’s as if that was my point or something.
Do you want a reason to be angry? Try finding a better reason, like the environment, or nuclear proliferation, etc.
If we steered society towards what makes people comfortable the world would be a very horrible place to live.
Galileo, for example, would have said "OK guys, sorry for making you feel certain way, I better stop using my telescope and doing science so your imaginary friend is not angry".
Have a good day.
There was no tone shift. There was no /s. There was no “non-serious” tone there. You wanted to call into question their credentials, and found the most idiotic thing you could and ran with it.
The fact that every single one of your replies is serious and aggressive in tone does not help your case. Obviously that one paragraph is the sole exception, obviously.
Next time, just take the L in stride.
If multiple people respond in the same way (which has happened here) then maybe, just maybe, they're all reacting to the same thing and you are just shit at making your point known.
That is the kind of nonsensical mindset that demands defiance.
Also, I don't remember having insulted you.
So am I. Ever heard of Barrapunto (Spanish Slashdot, RIP), Menéame (Spanish Digg), Naukas (a science boosting group)?
So the most interesting discussions happen in closed circles not in the open.
It is a shitty way of building a society that has its roots in colonial times.
- La pizarra de Yuri
- Naukas
- La Aldea Irreductible
These have been since ~y2k or close.
The newer ones came from http://cienciaes.com
Avoid political/philosophical discussions with people from Liberal Arts. They are full of ego's.
They were about wealth extraction and draining others as fast and unsustainably as possible.
The movements of independence had their origin in Masonic lodges. University founders were either part of the Roman Catholic church, jesuits or masons. All of them known to exclude people for different reasons.
If you were a brilliant person but did not have your sacraments or you were an illegimate child then a Roman Catholic university would likely tell you to go somewhere else. In fact, it is likely that if you died you could not even get a marked grave in a cemetery.
So if you were not wealthy, ethnically european or connected to the church or masons then the chances you would be someone in life, and part of the historic record, let alone an intellectual with published works were shit.
And if you somehow surpassed all those barriers and published something then who would buy it? nobody. Because haciendas paid with food, nobody except the Patron would know how to read and the entire continent was all haciendas with indentured servitude until land reforms changed that.
The elites that govern Latin America are not necessarily more altruistic than conquistadors. The difference is closer to Pepsi and Coca-Cola, a bunch of aggrandized cowards that exploit, marginalize people and spend all their day devising new ways to implement structural violence.
So yeah, Spanish-speaking Internet is a reflection of that legacy and it is in many cases a sewer of the mind. It is getting better, and there is hope, but we have to say it.
The old-Regime lovers screwed up with the Spanish people against the classical liberal constitution with Ferndinand VII, the biggest turd ever before Franco.
This isn't exclusively true of the Spanish speaking world though. The more I see the people of my generation who have achieved prominence in the academic humanities, the more I've concluded the main qualification is ego, tribalism, being a controversialist and titanium self-confidence in your genius. Actual intellegence or intellectual rigour is a handicap.
That's the Latino internet. European Spanish internet is more about the Black Legend, posts about Spanish Empire by a user who inevitably has a Burgundy cross avatar, Franco nostalgia and how England and Holland cheated them of glory.
By the way, the spanish phoneme 'z' is pronounced differently to the english phoneme 'z'.
We can do that in "think" or "thanks". But not in "they". In the latter case we tend to mispronounce it as a Spanish phoneme 'd'.
Taken from Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_phonology#Consonants
"The phonemes /b/, /d/, and /ɡ/ are realized as approximants (namely [β̞, ð̞, ɣ˕], hereafter represented without the downtacks) or fricatives[6] in all places except after a pause, after a nasal consonant, or—in the case of /d/—after a lateral consonant; in such contexts they are realized as voiced stops.[7] (In one region of Spain, the area around Madrid, word-final /d/ is sometimes pronounced [θ] especially in a colloquial pronunciation of its name, Madriz ([maˈðɾiθ]).[8]) "
And, if the case of participles, we just nearly butcher the in-between 'd' in -ado as -ao, simillarly to the Southern speakers from the US on lots of words.
What I meant is that the closest sound to "th" in Spanish would be "z" or "d" instead of "t", as other replies have pointed out.
1) th is not used in Spanish
2) th would be likely hispanized as z
3) taken literally would sound culit-jo
If you ignore that you are left with "culito" which is ass + diminutive = small ass