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Re:The Undeniable Street View by bbarnett on Sunday March 26, 2023 @06:50PM (#35320529)
Producing half the steel(which seems highish, but not impossible), doesn't mean it is good steel.

And tools I buy with Chinese steel, do snap like twigs. Other steel does not. Because it's not junk.

Like Chinese steel does.

Because it's junk.

Re:The Undeniable Street View by xtian on Sunday March 26, 2023 @10:33PM (#35322240)
Are these tools all contemporaneous of each other and sold at the same price point? China will sell you anything you want. What most companies want today is planned obsolescence.
Re:The Undeniable Street View by bbarnett on Monday March 27, 2023 @08:48AM (#35325979)
Ah, the old "but western companies demand cheap, so china makes cheap" argument.

A nice, classic deflection. Goes right up there with the racist deflection.

No. Western companies ask for spec, Chinese companies say "sure" when they bid, but then just make junk.

With junk parts.

Such as junk Chinese steel. Because they can't make quality steel, because the QA, and knowledge, and capability, and work culture isn't there. Note again, how it was only the early 2010s, when Chinese companies were able to make tiny little steel balls, reliably, and round enough, for ball point pens.

Because Chinese steel is junk.

Re:The Undeniable Street View by xtian on Monday March 27, 2023 @10:04AM (#35326798)
No deflection.

Because no evidence.

Chinese steel is beautiful.

Because it is perfect.