Bourla was by far the most controversial in the interview not acknowledging that the vaccine has risks and side effects.

I took it as fast as I could because the researchers at the companies did a great job, but still how he talked about it was unscientific.

Thank you for explaining. Makes total sense now. Tried to listen to it and found it quite annoying because the interviewer gave no direction to it nor did care if a question was actually answered. Maybe I can even listen to it now accepting that simple fact.