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Re:Watch the Watchers: LAPD officer database by zo1 on Friday March 24, 2023 @02:09AM (#35285604)
To me it's a sign of a failure of the system if people have to resort to this. With that said, this whole "copwatch" thing clearly has a huge element of being an intimidation tactic to scare police from doing their legitimate jobs.

It's mob behavior by proxy and I have absolutely no doubt that it's been used to aid actual criminals. Just watch some videos of the flash riots and road blockages. Or videos of the intimidation that police get by being recorded, taunted and down right verbally abused while trying to stop legitimate criminals. It's frankly disgusting, looks heavily inspired by blm-style black thug culture, and is a few steps away from pure anarchy.

Re:Watch the Watchers: LAPD officer database by moshun on Friday March 24, 2023 @02:45AM (#35285802)
Interesting that you consider the few avenues citizens have to hold police accountable as a path toward anarchy and “black thug culture”.

I’m curious if you have the same energy for the reasons police are being watched in the first place.

Re:Watch the Watchers: LAPD officer database by zo1 on Friday March 24, 2023 @05:20AM (#35286804)
Of course, I'm an anarcho capitalist. I think the power that police are given and use is both scary and not healthy for society. They will abuse it, and they will escalate violence. But I also understand that at this point in time, society and culture is getting out of control and violence seems to be the only answer. I have no problem with them needing to use violence against criminals that are bullies towards the innocent.

If we don't like it, we need to change the laws.

And no I didn't say it was a path to it, I said it's causing us to move towards anarchy. Let's face it, a lot of current American black culture is openly sexist and racist and down right not healthy for a functioning society. A lot of people would agree with me except they're scared of the outrage and backlash and just plain scared of the angry thug violence most "black cultured" people will escalate such comments to.

You just don't see that as much if at all from white people's culture.

Not a comfortable topic, flamey for sure, but I feel it's important to raise awareness to the topic.

Re:Watch the Watchers: LAPD officer database by kevviiinn on Friday March 24, 2023 @04:42PM (#35295168)
Do you think markets can exist without regulation?
Re:Watch the Watchers: LAPD officer database by lynx23 on Friday March 24, 2023 @04:05AM (#35286321)
> intimidation tactic to scare police from doing their legitimate jobs.

Do you seriously believe honest and law-abiding policemen could be scared and intimidated by being recognizable by ccitizens? I highly doubt that. Transparency is good, speaking against it is a good indicator that you might have a hidden agenda here. IOW, I personally dont trust people that utter sentences like this to be actually real, or nice to talk to.

Re:Watch the Watchers: LAPD officer database by zo1 on Friday March 24, 2023 @05:22AM (#35286815)
I was more referring to the people recording police and the way they treat them while they're doing their job.

But this online database is just a lighter form of that. Accountability sure, all good, but this can quickly turn south and become a hit list for these individuals to be targeted in a multitude of ways. Let's be honest about that.

Re:Watch the Watchers: LAPD officer database by lynx23 on Friday March 24, 2023 @05:29AM (#35286860)
The problem here is that accountability is still a random accident. As long as policemen are typically not held accountable, citizens need to do tracking like this, and even more.

The day there is real accountability for every case, I am on your side again, granting policemen the privacy they deserve. But that is quite far off. And it is something police can control themselves.

Similar to how I see catholic priests and their tendency to fuck little children. The day the curch proovably demonstrates that they are hunting the bad apples for real, I will stop calling them all a bunch of rotten souls.

Just show you have your act together, and people will stop hating you, it is that simple. But whining about privacy while your gang is harassing citizens is just not on the menu.