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Re:Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexua... by 4ggr0 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @11:42AM (#35276541)
> Modern porn isn't like your grandpa's playboy magazines

I'm sure there was very extreme porn when grandpa was reading his magazines. Maybe access to it is easier today, but I'm sure humans have been into extreme sexual activities for a veeeeeeery long time.

Re:Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexua... by sh4rks on Thursday March 23, 2023 @11:59AM (#35276789)
Yep, accessibility is my concern. Think about the most vile, extreme porn you've seen. Now multiply that vileness by 10. That content is just as easy to access (via the Internet) as some innocent nude selfie.

Again, I think adults should be able to watch what they want. The concern is for the children who are given unrestricted access to the Internet from a young age.

Re:Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexua... by 4ggr0 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @12:28PM (#35277252)
> The concern is for the children who are given unrestricted access to the Internet from a young age

Kinda agree - but for me that's up to the parents. Control your kids devices, restrict them, educate them etc.

Else, how do you want to control this? Mandatory identification on the whole internet? No thanks...

I've seen a lot of things as a teenager which I shouldn't have seen (gore videos of mexican cartels, ISIS etc.), and I'm sure that this has done some mental damage, even though I can't exactly pinpoint what kind. But still, if the alternative is total bureaucratic control over the whole internet with my personal ID being identified everywhere, just to save some uncontrolled kids from watching things they shouldn't...I don't know.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Infocal...

Re:Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexua... by slowmovintarget on Thursday March 23, 2023 @01:04PM (#35277795)
We need to stop asking the government to parent our children. This is the chief problem. That idea has been mainstreamed such that the assumption is "there ought to be a law" for everything.

Once upon a time, when conservatism was a set of principles and not a set of rants, it was conservatives that stood for limiting government's reach into private concerns. Those values have largely flown out the window to the point where the "two sides" are simply arguing over what to interfere in.

At a global level, human societies have gone through this before. The rash of attaching fig leaves to statuary, for example. The last decade has seen an up-tick of that kind of activity as well.

What happens when you tear down religion and the family unit as moral centers in society? Society replaces them with government... which is drastically worse. Governmental agencies have no interest in teaching that they don't have the responsibility. Their existence depends on growing their authority. There's a conflict of interest.

This is not a slippery slope argument either, it's the consequences of some ideas winning mind share (government as moral authority, morality as old-fashioned...).