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Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by biofox on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @10:14PM (#35255889)
That sounds like a poor solution to a problem of their own making
Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by colordrops on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @10:38PM (#35256079)
As an owner it works great. Windshield wipers have a sensor for automatic control, and if you want to manually adjust, voice recognition is highly accurate these days. I switch between my Prius and Tesla all the time as my wife shares the vehicles, and I much prefer the Tesla controls. But I'll get off of your lawn if you'd like.
Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by wlesieutre on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @11:04PM (#35256292)
Anecdotally the owner I’ve asked about it said it sucks. And he’s a Native American English speaker. How’s it do with accents?

Maybe it’s been improved with hardware upgrades? His is around a 2017 I think.

Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by judge2020 on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @11:47PM (#35256573)
An update came out around November of last year that vastly improved auto high-beams, and somewhat improved automatic windshield wiper performance.
Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by wlesieutre on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:32AM (#35256863)
I mean the voice control features specifically. Didn’t hear anything about the auto high beams and wipers which could imply they worked better than the voice recognition.
Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by colordrops on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @02:12AM (#35257434)
I'm a native speaker, maybe I have good enunciation. I'm amazed at how accurate the voice recognition is. It almost never makes a mistake, even with obscure location names. It displays on the screen what it thinks you said and even updates it as more heavy duty ML requests come back with better results.
Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by orthoxerox on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @05:57AM (#35258860)
I imagine it works as well as the famous voice-activated elevator in Scotland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMS2VnDveP8

Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by cyberax on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @11:58PM (#35256639)
I'm usually listening to audiobooks. Right now Tesla doesn't support any audiobook reader, so voice commands momentarily mute the book without pausing.

Next issue is the quality of voice recognition. It just sucks.

Oh, and wipers are a pure fucking BS in Teslas. They removed a $5 infrared precipitation sensor, and it STILL doesn't work well.

Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by davchana on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @03:01AM (#35257729)
I don't own Tesla, I have a strong Punjabi Accent when i speak English. Many bigger companies phone trees based on voice "commands" are useless for me. It never understands me. My Ford Sync voice controls too struggle to understand me. I prefer buttons.
Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by selimthegrim on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @09:47AM (#35260930)
Like Zail Singh with Reagan, you will just have to teach it Punjabi :)
Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by piyh on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:21AM (#35256799)
At least it's hands free unlike the pile of shit that is Subaru Outback's infotainment. Takes upwards of 20 seconds to change any settings after the car turns on because it lags so bad.
Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by Loughla on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @09:59AM (#35261067)
Jesus Fuck is the Subaru infotainment system just an absolute nightmare. I love Subaru cars. I have owned several.

My most recent (23 Impreza) was the first with full-blownsies infotainment. It is just an absolute shitshow.

Slow, laggy, buggy, hard to understand menus. It randomly turns black and takes a minute or two to turn back on when starting driving. If you get in turn the car on, and put it into a gear without waiting for 20-30 seconds, the screen and therefore radio will be completely unusable for anywhere from 30 seconds up to five minutes afterwards.

It is just awful. Awful.

Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by dybber on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @02:10AM (#35257421)
It will probably make production costs cheaper in the long run to avoid as many buttons as possible, unless legislation forbids it due to safety concerns. I’m on team Hyundai in this case, but if you want to produce the cheapest possible car, you will have to reduce the amount of components that needs to be installed.
Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by saagarjha on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @03:09AM (#35257776)
Teslas aren’t particularly cheap, of course.
Re:Hyundai Promises to Keep Buttons in Cars by piva00 on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @03:21AM (#35257860)
They do look cheap once you step inside.