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Re:Google Bard enters open beta by Vt71fcAqt7 on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @11:51AM (#35247941)
Non-US countries like to fine US tech companies and create regulations ect. which we are already seeing in the EU wrt AI. So it makes sense why they don't want to be involved in that kind of thing before there is even a real product. That is, there is no upside for them aside from market share, which I agree is important but does not alone explain Google's product failures, about which much has already been written.
Re:Google Bard enters open beta by BiteCode_dev on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @11:53AM (#35247970)
Sure.

Meanwhile ChatGPT is used everywhere in France, and it's now synonymous with AI for most people in Europe.

Game over.

Re:Google Bard enters open beta by kjreact on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @12:45PM (#35248832)
Just like Netscape is synonymous with browser? Just 5 years ago DeepMind was at the forefront. AI tech is changing so fast who knows who will be ahead in the next 5 years?
Re:Google Bard enters open beta by BiteCode_dev on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @12:57PM (#35249015)
If Google product was ahead of the competition I would agree with you.

But GPT is just miles away better than everything else, and it keeps getting better at a scary rate, especially because the feedback loop from so many users is making it better.

Re:Google Bard enters open beta by verdverm on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @01:10PM (#35249212)
OpenAI has had significant up time issues. They don't seem to know how to run production services. Business cannot rely on them as a foundation to build upon. Their moat is quite thin and dry
Re:Google Bard enters open beta by belter on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @01:49PM (#35249782)
Well they are on Azure so....
Re:Google Bard enters open beta by oezi on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @01:45PM (#35249722)
Except that ChatGPT is such a bad name for a product. I don't think Bard is much better but I don't think ChatGPT is going to be a household name.
Re:Google Bard enters open beta by jakeinspace on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @01:53PM (#35249827)
CatGPT is a better name than ChatGPT, perhaps that’s why it’s taking off (allegedly) in France.
Re:Google Bard enters open beta by BiteCode_dev on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @03:57PM (#35251667)
I think one of the reasons it's working so well here is because formal writing is still a big thing:

- heavy administration

- schools have a strong emphasis on essays

- getting a job often implies writing a cover letter

And since French is not easy, so many people find it to be a barrier to entry.

While I love GPT for quickly giving me code snippets of things I would take minutes to come up with, my friends have this problem for the regular day-to-day language.

I never noticed it before, because it's so natural to write to me, that I never have to think to hard to express anything. And because I've been a freelance for so long, doing formal writing is fluid. I know all the canned phrases by heart. The polite words to end the message.

But I came to realize: they don't.

As soon as I showed them chatgpt, their eyes light up. The killer feature for them was not the ability to answer complicated questions or save on search, nor was it the possibility of getting a summary. It was producing boring letter-like messages, with no typo.

Re:Google Bard enters open beta by novaRom on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @10:31AM (#35261604)
chatGPT is great to rewrite certain text in grammatically correct and simplify or make it more formal, etc.
Re:Google Bard enters open beta by deelly on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @11:55AM (#35248002)
Sorry, just to be sure, its a theory, or you know it as a fact?
Re:Google Bard enters open beta by Vt71fcAqt7 on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @12:08PM (#35248214)
Yeah its just my theory. I'm not aware of any public reasoning given for their actions, although it's possible they may have mentioned it in an earnings call or something.
Re:Google Bard enters open beta by t0mas88 on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @12:48PM (#35248876)
It's not like the EU is specifically targeting US companies with their consumer protection regulations. Those things are considered completely normal protections for consumers in Europe.

It's just that 99% of US big tech companies are very anti-consumer and have gotten away with it in the US in the past. But that also seems to be changing over time.

Re:Google Bard enters open beta by pb7 on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @03:46PM (#35251531)
That’s why most innovation is coming out of the US. Gotta have consumers to be anti-consumer and to continue to have consumers you need products worth using. Europe has none. Just worse local copies of ideas that have been pioneered elsewhere and often wholly owned by US companies.