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Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by inglor_cz on Saturday March 18, 2023 @03:57PM (#35212530)
The narrow thinkers / cranks dilemma is beautifully described, thank you.

You aren't in the academia, are you? Because you explain things in simple terms, yet very efficiently.

One of the diseases of current academia is use of an extremely stilted language, perhaps intended to paper over some logical cracks.

Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by Animats on Saturday March 18, 2023 @05:39PM (#35213355)
> One of the diseases of current academia is use of an extremely stilted language, perhaps intended to paper over some logical cracks.

One word. Derrida.

ChatGPT and its successors may put a big dent in the pretentious blithering industry. It's now too easy to generate a pseudo-academic style. Large language models are really good at this, because they have so much obscure text upon which to draw.

Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by WalterBright on Saturday March 18, 2023 @08:45PM (#35214772)
On the other hand, I enjoy using less common words because it adds flavor to the work. Sort of like painting the interior of the rooms of your house something other than off-white.

Yet I loathe the words "synergy" and "optics". Gag me with a spoon.

Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by wolverine876 on Saturday March 18, 2023 @11:13PM (#35215660)
Speaking of blithering, you are only parroting some Internet tropes in an echo chamber (which is probably where you learned them). You know by now that such things are nonsense; they are a waste of time and a poison to knowledge and reason.

And I think you are far behind the times - I'm not sure many people study Derrida these days.

What have you read recently?

Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by Animats on Sunday March 19, 2023 @02:42AM (#35216626)
> What have you read recently?

"Embrace the Suck", by Gleeson. (Yet another Navy SEAL memoir. This author seems to enjoy the suffering a bit too much. Other SEAL memoirs describe the same training, but not with such enthusiasm for the pain.)

Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by runlaszlorun on Sunday March 19, 2023 @02:57PM (#35222247)
I’m going out on a limb here… but did they all tell you about how hard ‘hell week’ was?
Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by Animats on Sunday March 19, 2023 @04:47PM (#35223418)
Yes. It's about purpose. SEALs all write about how tough it is, but it's seen as a means to an end. People in that business need to be that tough to succeed on actual missions.

Gleeson seems to be into the suffering for its own sake.

Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by wolverine876 on Monday March 20, 2023 @01:12AM (#35227541)
Sorry, I meant, 'what have your read out of academia recently' that matches these claims?
Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by pacaro on Saturday March 18, 2023 @05:47PM (#35213420)
I've done a bit of both so to speak. I studied History and Philosophy of Science as an undergrad, but have worked as self taught software engineer for nearly 30 years.

I don't think that jargon is created to confuse or obfuscate, most likely the opposite. My favorite example is in sailing. Every functional part of a sailboat has a name, because precise communication between crew can be critical and saying "pull the rope, no the other one, no the other other one" doesn't help. But telling a non sailer to tighten a jib sheet seems unnecessarily persnickety.

Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by WalterBright on Saturday March 18, 2023 @08:48PM (#35214797)
> But telling a non sailer to tighten a jib sheet seems unnecessarily persnickety.

Not to me. I enjoy learning things like that.

I enjoyed watching the "Power" TV series not just for the plot, but for the colorful street jargon. For example: "I'll dime you" means I'll call you on the phone.

Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by wolverine876 on Saturday March 18, 2023 @11:14PM (#35215665)
> One of the diseases of current academia is use of an extremely stilted language, perhaps intended to paper over some logical cracks.

What have you read recently from academia?

> You aren't in the academia, are you? Because you explain things in simple terms, yet very efficiently.

Sometimes things aren't simple.