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Re:Can GPT-4 *Actually* Write Code? by shagie on Friday March 17, 2023 @12:46PM (#35199529)
The artisan of old created one bowl at a time and made artisan pots. A machine that makes bowl can automate the artisan's job away.

However, the next challenge is that the machine itself is now an "artisan" device.

I'm sure the first bowl printing machine ( https://youtu.be/bD2DNSt8Wb4 ) was purely artisan... but now you can buy them on Alibaba for a few thousand dollars ( https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Printing-Machine-Cera... )

I am sure there is a (bowl printing machine) machine out there.

But if you say "I want a bowl printing machine that can do gradient colors" that first one (and probably the first few until it gets refined) are all going to be artisanal manufacturing processes again.

This all boils down to that at some point in the process, there will be new and novel challenges to overcome. They're moving further up the production chain, but there is an artisan process at the end of it.

The design of a new car has changed over time so that it is a lot more automated now than it was back then ( https://youtu.be/xatHPihJCpM ) but you're not going to get an AI to go from "create a new car design" to actually verifying that it works and is right.

There will always be an artisan making the first version of anything.

Re:Can GPT-4 *Actually* Write Code? by esfandia on Friday March 17, 2023 @02:58PM (#35201372)
> There will always be an artisan making the first version of anything.

Until we reach the bootstrap point (the singularity?), i.e. when the GPT-making machine is GPT itself. Or maybe we're still one level behind, and the GPT-making machine will generate the GPT-making machine, as well as all the other machines that will generate everything else.