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Re:Anyone else witnessing a panic inside NLP orgs of big tec... by dr_dshiv on Thursday March 16, 2023 @07:38PM (#35190535)
Looking around here in Amsterdam, there is a lot of work to be done. And all the places that aren’t as nice, there is a LOT of work to be done.

Computational irreducibility combined with human insatiability combined with ethics entails: a lot of work to be done. Everyone needs to get to work, we aren’t done yet. If robots could do all the work, god bless. This is about focus and intention. I can literally hire anyone right now and, with chatGPT, they can probably be valuable to me. Why aren’t we hiring more people?

Ever notice how you get taxed for hiring people a lot more than buying tech? That’s something to be fixed. It’s going to hurt. Also, 50% tax is about normal, get used to it.

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Re:Anyone else witnessing a panic inside NLP orgs of big tec... by sterlind on Thursday March 16, 2023 @08:15PM (#35190864)
how much of that work requires physical labor? when I think of the work to be done, I think of like, building roads and houses and factories, transitioning to renewable energy, staffing hospitals with doctors and nurses, picking up trash on the street, cleaning up oceans, research in biology and pharmacology.

I don't really think of filing paperwork, or writing code, or meetings in general. It's the stuff that requires arms and legs and fingers that's our bottleneck. ChatGPT can't help with that. Robots can, but RL is lagging.

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Re:Anyone else witnessing a panic inside NLP orgs of big tec... by dr_dshiv on Thursday March 16, 2023 @08:49PM (#35191210)
> building roads and houses and factories, transitioning to renewable energy, staffing hospitals with doctors and nurses, picking up trash on the street, cleaning up oceans, research in biology and pharmacology

All that takes knowledge work. Physical too, but most of the cost today is knowledge work.

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Re:Anyone else witnessing a panic inside NLP orgs of big tec... by pcthrowaway on Thursday March 16, 2023 @09:10PM (#35191384)
Exactly. A future where humans are the drones while big AI does all the thought work is the inverse of the techno-futuristic dreams of the 80s-00s
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Re:Anyone else witnessing a panic inside NLP orgs of big tec... by shswkna on Thursday March 16, 2023 @08:35PM (#35191068)
I wonder why not more people are seeing it from this angle. My tech company is in southern africa, and I struggle to find the talent to fit my customers / the market’s needs. We can’t compete with salaries in the US or western countries in general.

Now, my average tech staff can actually solve challenging coding problems that before could only be done by the few talented ones.

It does not solve all shortcomings, but it definitely shifts the collective cognitive load in the company.

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Re:Anyone else witnessing a panic inside NLP orgs of big tec... by foobiekr on Friday March 17, 2023 @11:28AM (#35198332)
If the talent at hand isn’t competent to build it, they aren’t competent to debug or support it.
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Re:Anyone else witnessing a panic inside NLP orgs of big tec... by carlosjobim on Friday March 17, 2023 @04:05PM (#35202165)
Why do you say you can't compete with Western salaries? If your customers don't want to pay what it takes, why the hell would it be your potential employees' responsibility to reduce their salary so you can offer this bargain? And since you are in tech, you can sell to the whole world. If your business can't get enough profit to pay for your workers, then the company should shut down the business as a failure.
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