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Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by garyclarke27 on Thursday March 16, 2023 @09:07AM (#35181393)
What would the US do if Russia was flying a sophisticated drone in the Gulf of Mexico 24 Miles from the US coast?
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by distances on Thursday March 16, 2023 @09:36AM (#35181776)
I'm sure you know already but Russia consistently not only approaches, but violates the airspace of neighbouring countries.
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by nwellnhof on Thursday March 16, 2023 @10:12AM (#35182234)
Approach certainly, but actual violations of airspace are extremely rare.
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by computerfriend on Thursday March 16, 2023 @10:22AM (#35182353)
They've been doing it continuously for a year in Ukraine.
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by maximinus_thrax on Thursday March 16, 2023 @01:52PM (#35185546)
Yeah, so 'extremely rare' they can actually be considered part of their foreign policy https://www.aa.com.tr/en/politics/russia-has-long-history-of...

There are actual political scientists writing studies on Russian airspace violations.

Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by nwellnhof on Thursday March 16, 2023 @02:48PM (#35186488)
Yes, there are many incidents but the vast majority aren't airspace violations in the strict sense. Just some aircraft coming close to territorial waters or harassing other aircraft or ships.
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by Rebelgecko on Thursday March 16, 2023 @09:10AM (#35181429)
Scramble fighters and ask them to leave, like we do when they regularly approach the coast of Alaska
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by rainworld on Thursday March 16, 2023 @09:13AM (#35181471)
Not if the US was at war with Mexico and Russia was doing reconnaissance for them.
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by Larrikin on Thursday March 16, 2023 @09:26AM (#35181641)
Is there any reason to think that the US would be going to war with Mexico, that Russia would support Mexico, or that Russia would even have the capabilities to do reconnaissance so far away from Russia and close to the US?

Is there a point to this hypothetical besides trying to garner sympathy for Russia and their war?

Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by rainworld on Thursday March 16, 2023 @09:34AM (#35181752)
The point of this hypothetical is to illustrate the reality of the situation: Russia is at war with Ukraine and the US has been doing extensive reconnaissance for them, for over a year. The US would have never been so patient in a similar situation.
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by belorn on Thursday March 16, 2023 @09:44AM (#35181869)
According to Russia it is not a war. If it was a war then it would mean that Russia invaded Ukraine, and that would be illegal.
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by justin66 on Thursday March 16, 2023 @11:03AM (#35182863)
> The US would have never been so patient in a similar situation.

"Patience" isn't an accurate characterization of what's happening here. Of course Russia would be delighted to shoot down those drones, or any manned reconnaissance aircraft in the area as well. They refrain from doing this because there would be unwelcome consequences, not because they're carefully observing some law or principle.

You can certainly tweak your strained hypothetical in such a way that the US would be bound by similar constraints. (that's not even difficult, it's just a matter of examining the hypothetical a little more closely - imagine how much would have gone wrong for the United States military in order for it to even be in a real war with Mexico) It's just a matter of hypotheticals like this not being very useful.

Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by rainworld on Thursday March 16, 2023 @12:26PM (#35184198)
“Patience” is a good characterization because (as you have observed correctly) they’ve refrained from doing so in the past to avoid the consequences of such actions, but now, crucially, the are taking them down.

imagine how much would have gone wrong

That’s funny because just days ago some US congressmen have demanded (CW: euphemisms) the “authorization” of “military force” against “the cartels”: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/9/mexicos-president-sl...

Now, invading Mexico is still a remote prospect at this point, but if you think the US wouldn’t “defend their interests” there, you’d better read up on the Monroe Doctrine and 19th and 20th century history of the Americas.

Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by avmich on Thursday March 16, 2023 @12:13PM (#35183949)
> The US would have never been so patient in a similar situation.

Why do you think so?

Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by pphysch on Thursday March 16, 2023 @12:25PM (#35184181)
Alaska is right next to Russian airspace. Ukraine is not right next to American airspace.
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by odd_perfect_num on Thursday March 16, 2023 @12:47PM (#35184564)
It is right next to NATO airspace as well as an active war instigated by Russia.

Also, do you really think the Russians scramble their strategic bombers to Alaska because it is next to their borders? They don't do the same to China or North Korea.

Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by pphysch on Thursday March 16, 2023 @12:51PM (#35184605)
PRC and DPRK don't have nuclear first-strike policies/histories nor have publicly advocated for the overthrow of the Russian government. Again, apples and oranges.
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by dragonwriter on Thursday March 16, 2023 @12:53PM (#35184651)
> PRC and DPRK don't have nuclear first-strike policies/histories

DPRK does in fact have an overtly stated nuclear first strike policy.

Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by pphysch on Thursday March 16, 2023 @12:59PM (#35184758)
Can you provide an official source for that claim?
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by Rebelgecko on Thursday March 16, 2023 @06:10PM (#35189506)
Article 6 of the 핵무력 법제화
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by BMc2020 on Thursday March 16, 2023 @09:22AM (#35181582)
start feeding it fake intel.
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by expertentipp on Thursday March 16, 2023 @10:49AM (#35182768)
Like shift the GPS location 1km or rather upload gay porn with Lukashenko?
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by BMc2020 on Thursday March 16, 2023 @05:13PM (#35188731)
What would the US do if Russia was flying a sophisticated drone in the Gulf of Mexico 24 Miles from the US coast?

What kinds of deception are up to the people who do this for a full time job. (If it was me I would send two of our drones, one to stand off a bit and record video, then the other drone would attempt to 'mate' the Russian drone midair.)

But that's just me.

Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by partiallypro on Thursday March 16, 2023 @10:42AM (#35182672)
For starters Crimea isn't Russia, it's Ukraine. Secondly, Russia flies close to US borders and assets all the time and we don't recklessly do things like this.
Re:Video Shows Russian Fighter Hitting USAF Drone by maximinus_thrax on Thursday March 16, 2023 @01:49PM (#35185480)
Your question is loaded and has two implications which are based on wrong premises.

The drone was not 24 miles from the Russian coast. It was 75 miles southwest of Crimea, which is the Ukranian coast. The Russian jets were very very far away from home, they weren't in any way protecting Russian airspace.

When Russians violate airspace (like they often do in Europe) or come dangerously close to doing so in the USA, they are intercepted by fighter jets and asked to leave. Dropping fuel on their planes and flying like an idiot and then lying about it is generally not part of the NATO response.