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Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by favaq on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @04:09PM (#35174041)
The American Hawk looks with disbelief at someone who wants less war, not more.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by Swenrekcah on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @04:16PM (#35174129)
I was merely surprised by this, but the position that one has to want war in order to want to support Ukrainian defence in this unprovoked war of aggression is at best naive.

Also I’m not American, why would you think so?

Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by ummonk on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @05:26PM (#35174952)
Damming water to Crimea and shelling civilians in Donbas for 8 years is hardly “unprovoked”. It might not be sufficient justification for such a deadly and destructive invasion but it’s certainly provocation.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by older on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @05:51PM (#35175220)
Russian propaganda bingo in only one comment. Impressive.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by distances on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @06:40PM (#35175703)
So Ukraine should now provide water to lands occupied by their enemy? The Russian narrative gets more ridiculous every day!
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by xkcd1963 on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @09:34PM (#35177069)
He got the part with Donbas right though. The Ukrainian army started shelling their own citizens.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by ummonk on Thursday March 16, 2023 @02:13AM (#35178748)
Cutting off water to your own citizens because they’re under foreign occupation is certainly a provocative move that will put the legitimacy of your government into question, yes.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by simplotek on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @04:14PM (#35174109)
You don't have less war by stopping victims from defending themselves. You just get to improve the odds that the attacker is successful.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by listenallyall on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @05:23PM (#35174920)
You have "less war" when one side dominates and the other surrenders quickly. Two evenly-matched sides can continue fighting for decades.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by yadaeno on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @06:38PM (#35175679)
That worked with Poland in 1939 until Hitler decided to continue and attack the rest of Europe.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by listenallyall on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @08:28PM (#35176597)
Look, I'm not trying to discuss strategy or glory or good vs evil, just the concept of "less war." WWII was 6 years. US involvement in more recent conflicts like Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq was a lot longer. Meanwhile various civil and border wars have gone on beyond a decade.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by rfrey on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @07:28PM (#35176112)
And many who are not Americans look with disbelief at those who would deny the right of self defence to a nation, embolden and support an imperialist tyrant, virtually guarantee more wars in the near, and justify it with a cynical call to "peace".