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Re:Russian aircraft collides into US unmanned system in inte... by rocket_surgeron on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @08:19PM (#35161740)
>I don't remember seeing people calling out "genocide!" in any of the war campaigns of the United States

Genocide isn’t just “killing” people. Look it up.

And I don’t give a god damn about shit that happened 20 years ago.

I care about now, and the future.

I would call you a fucking idiot but that goes against the rules so instead I’ll call you uninformed.

Since you’re obviously lazy, here:

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

a. Killing members of the group;

b. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

c. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

d. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

e. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Russia is doing at least four of those.

Russian government officials have publicly, irrefutably, unquestionably admitted to “e. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.” on television, in front of the world.

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2023/02/22/ysph-research-reve...

https://newlinesinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/An-Independ...

You disgust me.

Re:Russian aircraft collides into US unmanned system in inte... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @10:06PM (#35162779)
What is the difference between war and genocide then?

This is not rhetorical. I am curious.

Re:Russian aircraft collides into US unmanned system in inte... by Zircom on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @01:15AM (#35164202)
With plain old war there are usually end goals like "gain control of this piece of land/and or resource". Which is what's happening in Ukraine. They want Ukraine's land and resources.

However, it's completely possible to achieve those goals without taking any of the actions listed by the other commenter except maybe a and b, but I can see arguments made that they're referring to noncombatants, and I think most of us can agree that them being wholesale slaughtered by the invading army isn't something that shouldn't be happening in any circumstances.

In this case Russia has made very loud and public statements making it distinctly clear that in addition to obtaining Ukraine's land and resources, they also intend to fully wipe out the national identity of Ukraine by taking most if not all of those actions, and in fact have already done some of them. That would be the difference.

Re:Russian aircraft collides into US unmanned system in inte... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @07:36AM (#35166662)
Thank you. I accept that explanation. From that perspective, the argument makes sense as well.