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Re:The new Bing runs on OpenAI’s GPT-4 by siva7 on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @02:33PM (#35156341)
I've used Google today for a quick product comparison search and it's awful. The first three results were sponsored ads and the next pages are just low-quality seo rigged content that didn't answer my question.
Re:The new Bing runs on OpenAI’s GPT-4 by basch on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @02:35PM (#35156371)
Having Bing chat attached to bing doesn’t exactly solve this. It still constantly pulls from low quality sources. I asked a question about Satan and it cited answers in Genesis. Product reviews regularly return seo garbage.

Product review categories in particular would benefit from whitelisting, by hand, things like americas text kitchen, consumer reports, rtings.

Re:The new Bing runs on OpenAI’s GPT-4 by AlotOfReading on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @02:48PM (#35156574)
I get the other bits, but what's the issue with citing Genesis? It doesn't use the names for Satan, but the serpent is commonly understood as the same entity. Are you looking for e.g. Job instead?
Re:The new Bing runs on OpenAI’s GPT-4 by basch on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @03:10PM (#35156888)
Re:The new Bing runs on OpenAI’s GPT-4 by AlotOfReading on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @03:58PM (#35157467)
Yeah, I see why that would be problematic. I misunderstood the original statement as citing the book of genesis itself, which seems a lot more reasonable.
Re:The new Bing runs on OpenAI’s GPT-4 by bitshiftfaced on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @02:50PM (#35156602)
It seems particularly bad lately. The pattern I've noticed is:

* A totally pointless introduction paragraph, devoid of info.

* Big ad

* A sort of teaser sentence in large font so that it appears to be the length of a paragraph. High noise to information ratio.

* Larger ad that loads as you scroll, so you're more likely to accidentally hit it

* Another sentence with high noise to info ratio.

* Repeat.

I think one of the SEO perks of this pattern is how it takes forever to find the information that you know must be somewhere on the website, so users seem more "engaged" because they are scrolling and spending more time visiting the site.

Re:The new Bing runs on OpenAI’s GPT-4 by topicseed on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @03:49PM (#35157325)
Also generates more ad impressions as you scroll and see these ads.
Re:The new Bing runs on OpenAI’s GPT-4 by pmoriarty on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @09:29PM (#35162464)
Looks like Google has turned into AltaVista.
Re:The new Bing runs on OpenAI’s GPT-4 by MichaelMoser123 on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @01:28AM (#35164285)
You made my day with that comment!
Re:The new Bing runs on OpenAI’s GPT-4 by MichaelMoser123 on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @03:44AM (#35165112)
not yet, you need to 'join in the waitlist' and be granted access to the 'new bing' - otherwise no access to the chat mode.
Re:The new Bing runs on OpenAI’s GPT-4 by slowmotiony on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @03:41AM (#35165095)
I wanted to check this point and asked Bing to suggest some good business laptops below $800. It suggested me a $2k dell xps, a $1.5k LG gram and some piece of shit chromebook. I guess we'll never have objective product comparisons free of seo bullshit.